nothing about it. how much of a game-changer is this revelation that trump was waiting in the wings having drafted a tweet saying, let s go. well you know for months all of us have been looking for secret planning or things we didn t know about. stuff that relates to january six. i think went to today s hearing showed that one, there was secret planning that we didn t know about. there were extra rallies planned for the capitol that were purposely kept quiet, that weren t supposed to be announced and then in public until the president made that announcement at a speech at the lips and the rally organizers who were in on those who are purposely keeping a quiet themselves but we re spreading it among themselves with text messages that the committee revealed and showed. i think the other thing that showed is that it didn t mean need to have a secret plan.
know, it s like have asserted my mastery over you. and, look, i think there is a lot of like the kind of woke psychology that contributes to the loyalty to teen choice, or sort of lords over the republican party. but he is certainly exploited it to his benefit. but why? you recently wrote in the atlantic the most pathetic man in america. and you talk about lindsey graham, and others, who didn t need to be pathetic for donald trump. they had big long-standing careers, long before him. right, like i get it why shawn spicer is waiting to be a human shield. the last time he was in the white house before trump, who was literally wearing an easter bunny suit. i get it. they ve never had a seat at the table, never gone to a party. lindsey graham has, why do this? well, lindsey graham needed to be reelected in 2020. and this is one of his colleagues, lindsey graham, there was no one who needs the u.s. senate more than lindsey does. he doesn t have a family. he doesn t have much else in his
this thing wasn t spontaneous, that he knew nothing about it. how much of a game-changer is this revelation that trump was waiting in the wings having drafted a tweet saying, let s go. well you know for months all of us have been looking for secret planning or things we didn t know about. stuff that relates to january 6th. i think went to today s hearing showed that one, there was secret planning that we didn t know about. there were extra rallies planned for the capitol that were purposely kept quiet, that weren t supposed to be announced and then in public until the president made that announcement at a speech at the ellipse and the rally organizers who were in on those who are purposely keeping a quiet themselves but we re spreading it among themselves with text messages that the committee revealed and showed. i think the other thing that showed is that it didn t mean to have a secret plan.
because up until now, trump kind of rolls mob boss style, that he never signs his name, is not the one on the phone, and it s a trump associate or ally that does it, but never him. this is critical, stephanie, because the real question is, and many people have noted it, is trying to figure out what the president knew, when he knew it, and whether or not there was an agreement. the critical point of a criminal conspiracy is that moment of agreement. and it seems that by putting all of these people, who are really extreme, seem somewhat deranged, on the stage, to sort of testify to having all of these different plans afoot, and to sort of distance the president from it. like, that could be their sort of strategy to muddy the waters about what his mental state was, what his intent was, going into all of this. and i think this was representative cheney s very earnest attempt to rebut that kind of strategy, and to make clear that he was the one at the center of all of this.
that same level of that said, he started this. there is no other way to put this. he created this vehicle, but anyone else can grab on to, that s an acceleration to his vehicle. it s gonna try to stampede whichever culture war issue, it s gonna try to stampede people who believe they re in their way of pretty standard old american biases against, you know, lgbtq americans, or minorities in general. that s the plan, go through those things. look, he did not he may not have the same power he had two years ago. he absolutely created a think and stop now. marjorie taylor greene is sitting in her petri dish, trying to do with, as we speak. ben collins, thank you so much. coming up, how the cult like devotion to trump s trip to washington? and pressured republicans into keeping him in power. we re gonna go one-on-one with mark leibovich, when the 11th hour continues. one-on-one with