going back to society, but they re taken out to the leader and his cronies offshore accounts. so if you want to strike at this whole system of thievery, you have to strike one at, you have to do with the u.s. planning to do. okay, but given that, ruth, let s talk timeline. what is a quote, timely and orderly fashion? especially if some of them saying, we can t do it immediately. we re gonna face this out. does that give putin town to come up with a contingency? i think it would. there s already a assembling block and that viktor orban in hungary who doesn t want to go along with this. and there s nothing surprising about this. in fact, the whole thing is we re having a huge reckoning of the relationship of dirty energy and the enemies of democracy. and for too long, we had made these deals with dictators out
from the table that punctuates eight. we just keep the game going. so my guess is that putin s gonna wait for time, a low keyed, open-ended military struggle, so there is no one who can say, you lost. he could say, i didn t lose. this is still ongoing. we are going to prevail. he at least has a talking point. ruth, how does that match with your understanding of putin as a strongman? you know, when i watched this quote, victory parade today, it came to mind what this late communist spectacle, with this kind of frozen rigid leader, and this, you know, these platitudes, these gaslighting, because these are very old themes. he talked about that russia s victim of the west, and the war as a defensive russia has just been grasped on with these whole themes. and the thing is, what an irony that you have parades of tanks and soldiers, when you know, putin s misguided war has cost 24,000 soldiers, 1000 tanks.
and in ways that will provide time for the world to secure alternative supplies. with us tonight, ruth ben-ghiat, history professor at nyu, and the author of the book, strongman: mussolini to the president. ruth, you recently tweeted about putin and other kleptocrats saying, western wheat for their oil and money prop them up to years. will these take attempt? i hope so. they re actually getting to the heart of putin s regime, because putin isn t just a dictator, he s a kleptocrat. and he s holding xin revolves around control and plunder of national resources of oil and gas. and an echo talk russi, we gazprom, the energy conglomerate is treated as a personal tool by putin and the olive arcs. and its profits are actually kind of blundered, exfiltration where the blob profits are not
focus on the economy and education. george w. bush, just in two decades, we ve moved from george w. bush to greg abbott, vastly different political parties today, and that s where we are. greg abbott knows that if you want to run for president, which odds are that he does, he s trying to make cultural issues he thinks he has this election, one he s moving on to the next election when she wants to one in, because it s president of the united states. victoria defrancesco in matthew dowd, thanks for spending some time with us. coming, up our next guest is western oil we re gonna ask historian ruth band gap, if a new plan to phase out russian oil is too little too late, when the 11th hour continues. hour continues hi! need new glasses? get 50% off a complete pair at visionworks! how can you see me squinting? i can t! i m just telling everyone!. hey! for a limited time, get 50% off a complete pair. visionworks. see the difference.
alternative supplies. with us tonight, ruth ben-ghiat, history professor at nyu, and the author of the book, strongmen: mussolini to the president. ruth, you recently tweeted about putin and other kleptocrats saying, western wheat for their oil and money prop them up to years. will these take attempt? i hope so. they re actually getting to the heart of putin s regime, because putin isn t just a dictator, he s a kleptocrat. and he s holding of power revolves around control and plunder of national resources of oil and gas. and in kleptocracy, gazprom, the energy conglomerate is treated as a personal tool by putin and the oligarchs. and its profits are actually kind of blundered, exfiltration