delicate moment. the president has pulled out. our european allies may want to continue to do business, and here you have john kerry who is one of the architects of the deal talking to the foreign minister. i understand former officials, whether it be members of congress or administration meet with other government officials on a regular basis. where it crosses the line, where i do think secretary kerry should be interviewed by the department of justice is was he actively trying to subvert the trump administration? you have very serious charges by the current secretary of state, mike pompeo, but i do think it is worthy, based on kerry s comments and his actions, plus what he s done in the past, that somebody from the department of justice should investigate this. i think you cross a line when you re actively trying to subvert the current administration. chris: well i mean you say when you are actively you don t know he was trying to all i am suggesting is it is worthy of an inv
takes a vacation in congress. i want to ask you about two democratic senators and what they did in the hearings. first of all, cory booker, who said he was defying the rules and releasing confidential e-mails. here he is. i will say that i did willingly violate the chair s rule on the committee confidential process. i take full responsibility for violating that, sir. chris: but of course as we all know now, it turns out that the committee had already leased those confidential released those confidential e-mails before cory booker made such a big show about releasing them. then there was democrat senator kamala harris who sounded like she had a bombshell. here she is. have you discussed mueller or his investigation with anyone at the law firm founded by president trump s personal lawyer? be sure about your answer, sir. chris: as alarming that sounded,
senator harris never produced any evidence that in fact kavanaugh had talked to anyone at the law firm about robert mueller. what do you think was going on with the democrats in this hearing? well, i m not going to impugn the motives of senator harris or senator booker. in fact, i was presiding for senator grassley when senator booker first started his cross-examination of the judge with a document that was supposed to be confidential. and i was asked to cut him off. i said no, i m not going to cut him off. let s let it rip. let it rip. let it all come out. here s the bottom line, both cory and senator harris, they want an activist liberal judge. they want a judge who will rewrite the constitution every other thursday to advance political agendas that they can t get by the voters and a representative democracy through congress. now, i don t. i think that judges are supposed
anticipate friday s developments. take a look. 30, 40 years i have been watching flippers, everything s wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they flip on whoever the next highest one is or as high as you can go. it almost ought to be outlawed. it is not fair. chris: congresswoman harmon, i mean, let s be realistic here. the special counsel rushed manafort. crushed manafort. he crushed him financially. he crushed him legally in the sense that manafort is a man of 69, faces at least ten years in prison or did at least before this deal. is the president right? is there something wrong with flipping? i don t think so. i mean, congress does have a role in setting procedures for federal courts. and in defining what is a crime. so trump isn t wrong that, you know, maybe someone could argue that maybe some of the procedures should be changed. but we have a vested interest in speedy trials. that s one of the laws that congress passed while i was a
to call the balls and the strikes. they are supposed to say what the law is, not what the law ought to be. we just disagree. now, that s why god made congress. let s go vote. here s where we are. let s go vote. we ve done everything we can do. i know we ve got the last minute secret allegation, but there s nothing we can do about that. kavanaugh s been through six, not four, not five, six fbi background checks. none of the stuff has ever come up before. let s go vote. chris: senator, i got about a minute left. i m going to ask you i m going to invoke cloture here. i want to switch subjects with you and ask you about paul manafort s decision to take a plea deal and agree to cooperate with the special counsel. your thoughts on how big a deal this conceivably could be? you know, all of this is just speculation. i can speculate as well as anybody else, but none of us know, chris. here s what i do know, i do know