limit. so nobody is saying we want to see default. we want to get some cuts and controls in spending going forward and that is what we ve been telling the white house. meanwhile, oklahoma republican senator tom coburn argued the debt limit ceiling needs to be tied to a bill. the debt ceiling is ridiculous. when was it not raised? that doesn t mean we limit our debt. that just says we re going to pause and borrow more. what do i need? i noou need absolute certainty that we ve made the critical changes that are in the necessary to put this country back where it needs to go. unless we do that, there s no way i support it. and the fact is, we re going to have a debt crisis either with this or soon thereafter if we don t come together. coburn is part of the so-called goc of six, a bipartisan group that has spent months trying to build consensus on a budget proposal aimed at reducing the nation s debt. yesterday, another senator said