that you require for the country but you do need the right one and it is notjust a literary means alone. right one and it is not ust a literary means aloneh right one and it is not ust a literary means alone. you raise an important literary means alone. you raise an important point literary means alone. you raise an important point about - literary means alone. you raise an important point about the i an important point about the geopolitical context. this is what the global times in ageing which pretty reliably reflect the views of the chinese government, this is what it has got in an editorial today. the us has suffered total humiliation in afghanistan stop if it can suffer such catastrophic defeat, who will trust its judgement in east asia or the south china sea? it s quite clear what the chinese read into what has just happened, isn t it? chinese read into what has ust happened, isn t mfi happened, isn t it? that s completely happened, isn t it? that s completely right. -
their situation is the defence secretary who has talked about a failure of the international community and was almost in tearsjust hours ago community and was almost in tears just hours ago saying that he feared that all the people britain owed an obligation to would not be able to make it out of afghanistan to make it out of afghanistan to britain, as he believed they should be allowed to do. the british government overall looks like a terrible mess, doesn t it? looks like a terrible mess, doesn t it? . ., doesn t it? ben wallace, the defence secretary doesn t it? ben wallace, the defence secretary is - doesn t it? ben wallace, the defence secretary is in - doesn t it? ben wallace, the defence secretary is in a - defence secretary is in a terrible situation having to deal with this circumstances. i know he is hugely concerned about the american decision, which i think the american nation will live to regret. but you are right and what you say. i came into politics because i wante
before we even started training and afghan force, in 2005, that s when we began in earnest. we waited four years. by earnest. we waited four years. by the time we did that, the teller but had started to retrain themselves and on the point about our relationship with the united states, the west has had its reputation kicked sideways, as indeed nato has and i m sure russia and china will be watching this very, very carefully. how do we stand up and challenge the erosion of the international rules based order as we promised to do. we signed a charter to do exactly that and yet we followed the united states, we followed donald trump. this is a matter actually considered taking the united states out of nato, so we need to review the decision making at the very top and ask ourselves whether it is still 0k to be able to take on challenges, small, workable challenges, small, workable challenges such as afghanistan. it s not a complicated solution
tobias ellwood, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. i am sure that you, like the rest of us, have been watching the scenes of chaos, of fear in kabul over the last few hours and days fear particularly seen at kabul airport. when you watch those scenes, what are your feelings? well, personally, i had a journey of discovery with afghanistan. back in 2002, my brother was killed in the bali bombing and i really couldn t understand what happened, that why somebody like my brother, who was a teacher out there, was targeted and killed, and i then tried to understand, go to afghanistan and see what we were doing,
horribly repressive and the american policy is to work with our latin american partners to try to restore democracy. that would involve a military option for the u.s.? in the civil war, i understand it s a terrible situation, but ultimately, why is our problem. venezuela could very much become a risk. the cubans are there, the russians are there, hezbollah, this is something that has the risk of getting to a very bad place. america needs to take this very seriously. we don t get the cia director on this program so i m going to take advantage of the fact that you are here to do a lightning round. quit questions and answers. chris: is it true you went to afghanistan last week and you left disturbed by the lack of confidence of the afghan leadership. no. i did go to afghanistan, i did not leave disturbed.