into new areas and new countries without that authorization. getting messy again in the middle east, if you will. the truth of the matter is our commander have conducted such operations worldwide. we have seen it happened in somalia, in yemen in afghanistan and pakistan and it s clearly a successful tactic. it s very dangerous. we have to get to a zero risk as possible, but obviously these operations are extremely complex. obviously we have seen some intelligence that let you to take that act now on a strategic level, how did this help in our strategies to defeat isis. it appears that this is just almost a pr stunt in the world community to say that we are defeating isis in certain ways but the truth of the matter is ra maddic has been for many months and isis expanding furse east to help the base where 15,000 shia militiamen are
network. this is the first step of identifying the network. once you understand how it functions, it s more easy to defeat it. this is not a drone war. we have to good about this very carefully. i disagree with john kerry. this is not about reducingç isis. this is about defeating isis. we re losing on most other fronts though. leit thismt, according to some officials, this was a tactical success, which many would welcome and it was also a targeted ground operation. if this is the model and we want to do more at what point would it behoof our operations and the people out there risking their lives on our behalf to have supported by some sort of clear congressional authorization of whether we re at war with entities in syria or syria itself. we re going in i notice tony hears what i m saying, going
all right. nbc s bill neely, thank for you that. for more on the successful raid that eliminated a key isis leader inside syria, we bring in jim miklaszewski, again live at the pentagon. the dod me have felt very confident in order to send commandos deep inside syria. that s right, the intelligence was right on the mark, by the way. when those two dozens delta force commandos landed outside a building there in eastern syria, they knew exactly who they were going after and where he would be located. and that was abu sayyaf. isis top financier their oil and gas man, who if head would have been captured alive would have been able to provide them with endless intelligence valuable intelligence presumably, but in the fire fight, intense fire fight in which we re told there was hand-to-hand combat, and one of the delta force commandos had to kill his attacker with his bare
victories on just a few. i think taking him out is important and using that money to buy weapons and finance its operations, but he is easily replaceable. they have thousands of accountants who can manage this paperwork, and they don t need somebody who is extremely knowledgeable about the oil industry in order for them to i m interested if you agree with that assessment that he s not particular what areally a high-level high-level, what does that say about the kind of intelligence and the quality of sbem gens that we now have on isis? it s improving. it has to get better i agree this guy may be mid level, maw not as important as some guys, like baghdadi. to defeat eye says, they have to identify and then defeat the
london center for policy research. also with us, lathe al kouyy at flash point global partners. tony, we start with you. sure. does isis have the upper hand? they do. and i think it s a mixed bag we need, from the guys to brake their political will. we have not done that well. also, we have to top the offensive so the other side of this is ramadi. no good news there. keep in mind we ve been training eight iraqi brigades for the past year, and now we re down to six or less and i think the problem is we have no daylight ahead of us. they don t know what they re going to do. i was talking to an iraqi official yesterday, one of the prime ministers, they don t know what they re going to do regarding the next line of defense. you ve got to do something different. i think you have to take the