trace, thank you from los angeles. and now a former special agent with the drug enforcement administration, also the c.e.o. and founder of global security incorporated which is a risk management and counterterrorism consulting firm. good to see you. i don t know how we figure out who is who down there or which leader is in power but does it seem right to you that as long as we have this enormous appetite and market for what the product is they are creating, that this is going to continue forever? guest: that is an excellent point. you need to have a two-prong strategy: interdiction and enforcement and demand reduction. if you look at the success we have had over the years in reducing cigarette smoking, for example, it can be done. will it be zero? no. we have to have less demand and try to lock the guys up. shepard: cigarette smoking is something you do in public, that is controlled, the only