didn t have the luxury o having you here. i did want to re-up somethin to you there were some statements mad on my colleague, already melbourne s show this week b his defense attorney his attorney indicating that trump denied the payment t stormy daniels because there was a quote unquot confidential settlemen agreement. glenn, i am going to assum that you agree with me that an type of payment that was made, even if it was pursuant to a settlement agreement, does not preclude the government from being able to go after donal trump for violating either state or federal laws, correct yeah, you know, nondisclosure agreements don t work as defenses to criminal conduct. those are contractual, civil contractual matters. so i do think all of this is barreling down on donald trump michael cohen, is virtua coconspirator in the hush mone payment crimes has been in the grand jury twice
president trump, is indicating that these are leaks from th da s office that is suggesting that he is going to be arreste on tuesday let s be honest, you and i bot know we have practice law in th criminal arena we know that there is conversation that has been going on in some way about having him turn himself in one question that s been posed to me repeatedly during this past week is this idea, he s i florida at mar-a-lago. does he have to actually bring himself to new york in order t be fingerprinted is he going to be in handcuffs people are wondering is there going to be a per walk is there any way, glenn, tha you could foresee that donal trump could stay in florida no actually have to appear in person for his arraignment you know, i hope not. because he should not be handled differently then you or i, or any other person wh is accused or who is indicte for a crime. we would be either arrested an taken to the appropriate polic facility to be booked, booking includes filling up poli
imminent lawless conduct glenn, also there s a littl bit of glenn, give me a second. i am going to have joining m now this conversation, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor charles coleman charles, if you are with us, h good morning i know we are bringing you an. we have some breaking news i know you are familiar with the post that was just done by former president donald trum on truth social. asking, indicating asking his followers to appear to protest, to protest and t take our nation back but most importantly, charles, former president donald trum indicating that he will be arrested on tuesday of nex week now, given according to this post he is blaming it on leaks that came from the manhattan da s office. but, charles, i will pick up the question is about oppose to glenn we know that the forme president of the united states donald trump has united states secret service protection. that was already creating little bit of an unusual security situation, as you and
those are his exact words. and then immediately following those words, quote, protests take our nation back indicating to his follower that they have to quote, tak our nation back. which is obviously concerning, and it makes you wonder whethe or not he knows that he is actually maybe walking himself into more allegations that h is inciting violence, whic also would be relevant to th fact that we have learned from federal state and local la enforcement agencies, that there is a security plan tha is being implemented for the manhattan criminal courthous for next week in the event h is indicted. so i am going to bring back in right now, glenn kirschner nbc legal analyst, forme federal prosecutor, friend o the show, and someone who definitely know could be abl to help us out and, glenn, we will stick with this because it is obviously really important at the end of the last block i asked you about statements tha were made by trump s defense attorneys and whether that could be imputed to him
there is strength in numbers not that that impacts ou prosecutor tarrio decisions, other prosecutors and othe jurisdictions are doing, but i do think there is a search comfort level, when multiple jurisdictions bring well founded cases against the same defendant, and when i saw thos jurors interviewed by th atlanta journal-constitution i that deep dive interview, th article ended with one of th jurors talking about what is about to come. that juror said, it s going to be massive it s going to be massive, th juror said it twice i m goin to go out on a limb and sa what s coming in fulton county georgia, is going to be massiv glenn kirschner, lucky. when i take no joy or glee i the idea of a former president of the united states being indicted but you and i have als maintained that justice matters, and i think we are about to se justice happen i appreciate you joining m this morning, glenn and th photo having you back soon thank you, katie. and coming up, sell or be