he faces charges of espionage, something he denies and the wall street journal calls ridiculous. can you give us a accepts of how evan is holding up and how this played out in court? reporter: a couple of different assessments on that. there was a cnn crew in the courtroom there able to see him, get close to him, obviously behind the glass wall. they said he seemed a bit agitated, nervous, the u.s. ambassador was able to enter the courtroom today she said he was showing remarkable resiliency, his parents were able to speak to him during a break in the courtroom sessions. perhaps that lifted his spirits a bit. but the reality here is that the u.s. is not getting the access it wants, the ambassador said three times russia has knocked back requests for consular access to evan. and he, to the ambassador said when she came out of the courtroom, she continues to be
down russian aircraft, which is good because russia has an air advantage and they re using it to great effect. and you and i talked about this too in all circumstances defending force has advantages, russia has had weak eks and mon to build up multiple lines of defenses here. it s been a long hard fight with losses on both sides. ukraine has already shown to be very quickly adaptable to the conditions they ve been facing. we ll see what happens in the coming days and weeks and months. good to see you, jim. speaking of russia, a russian court rejected an appeal from the wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich to end his pretrial detention. he appeared behind a glass wall in a moscow courtroom, you can see him there. he ll remain locked up until at least august 30th.
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