previous assertions. and then disappearing. it seems like one of those idiots in the nba games behind the basket waving those stupid things. is that all he is, joyce? he really is. he is a distraction for people from whatever the drama is for the day with trump. i don t mean omarosa, i mean the evidence that is beginning to amass. throwing up distractions saying it is a witch hunt and you can t trust bob mueller. when in fact you know that is not true. but that is his role. joyce, did you get a sense that he was coached by his client? he says one day they did talk about giving flynn a break, and not putting him away. and then next time, he says i never talked about that. was that the client saying hey
interview may well have gone above the fbi to the attorney general and beyond her, so i think this story is going to continue to unfold, and my experience back in the water gate years when i was first running for congress was these things unravel and each week you learn something new and that leads to something new and that leads you to something new and i think the report on mccabe is just one more piece of the unraveling and frankly the peter strzok stuff stuff may be as important as the mccabe stuff because at least based on initial copies we re getting in the text messages he clearly had some kind of relationship with the judge who they went to for the fisa warrant to go after general flynn. i think that puts in doubt the entire process of flynn s case and begins to setup an argument for giving flynn a pardon and racing that entire case. maria: well the other thing is the fact that they redacted that , so they have a
above the fbi and the attorney general and beyond her. i think that story s going to continue to unfold. my experience back in the watergate years when i was first running for congress is these things kind of unravel and each week you learn something new and that leads you to something new and that leads you to something new and i think the report on mccabe is just one more piece of the unraveling and frankly the peter struck stuff may be as important as the mccabe stuff. based on the initial topics we re getting copies we re getting of text messages he clearly had some kind of relationship with the drug who they went to for the fisa warrant to go after general flynn. i think that puts in doubt the entire process of flynn s case and begins to set up an argument for giving flynn a pardon and he racing that entire case. maria: the other thing is the fact that theyer redacted that. so they have a coverings on text about the fact that the judge is
today. take a look. given what he has already said with the interaction with the senate, it will be necessary, i think, to subpoena not only his personal but his businesses and any remedies necessary if he refuses to comply. reporter: what other remedies might be available, they could in theory hold him in contempt of congress, but that, of course, would require republican cooperation. i think the view is that that is probably unlikely, at least in the current political climate. of course, there is a lot of concern about stepping on bop mu bob mueller s, the special counsel investigation, at what s going on here. has there been talk about giving flynn immunity? interesting you should ask that. the senate richard burr ruled that out categorically earlier this week, so that s a non-starter. but when i talked to adam schiff, he actually said, you know what, we could get to the point where there might be
administration, let them make that decision. there may not have been a lot of practical effect about all of this but the question for investigators may well be, was the money that michael flynn was paid from turkish elements part of his decision-making process. did it influence him on what he was advising the president to do? brooke? so, bob, barbara brings up all of the right nuances of this story regarding turkey and the white house and syrian raqqa. is it also a definition of a conflict of interest which is why you cannot have senior military officials getting paid by foreign governments? oh, absolutely. this is a complicated issue to the kurds and turkey and this cleric in pennsylvania and the real point is he shouldn t have had a security clearance being in the pay of turkey.