mean this isn t their first indictment. and they were expecting this. so, they do have surrogates and allies ready to go. but i do think it is notable that his legal troubles are certainly piling up. i m told it s something that is very clear when you re around trump and his inner circle. you know he s been out in public recently at iowa, at the liv gov tournament at his course kaitlan, i m sorry to interrupt. i ve got to go to sara murray. sara, what s happening? reporter: so, we are learning that the grand jury has returned multiple indictments. we re learning there were ten indictments. again, this is based on the piperwork that has been returned that has made its way into the clerk s office. we are still waiting for the official release of these indictments. so, we re still waiting, essentially for the names who are named here. we know obviously that fulton county district attorney fani willis went into this intending to seek charges against former president donald trump and
criminal process to give an indictment can be fairly quick. and i think here you can tell we had eight months of investigation and really a relatively short time of consideration for returning the indictment. and elie, do you have a sense of from now that it s heading to the clerk, what is the process for it being released? so, the clerk really at this point just has to add it to the docket. they ll open up a new docket entry, which is all online now. it ll be titled state of georgia versus whoever the defendants are. and then presumably the indictment will be docketed. there won t be typically some sort of formal announcement by a clerk. now, the d.a., fani willis, may choose to come down and make an announcement at any moment. in fact, prosecutors tend to do things that way. as soon as the document hits the docket and becomes public, the d.a. will want to come down to make a basic statement to inform us of what s in there. there s not going to be a judge taking the bench again
defendant. you get to get soiled up by everybody who was part of your corrupt organization. that s why i think there will be much detail here. she probably remembers that alvin bragg was criticized for the new york case when it first came out, was not detailed enough. and certainly she s had the time to prepare and to give a very detailed indictment, given the time she spent both with the special purpose grand jury and the intervening time she s led up to this very short and abbreviated presentment to a regular criminal grand jury. elie, do you agree with that? i do. i think we should see quite a bit of detail out of fani willis. she has heard from dozes of witnesses, including geoff duncan, and she has said quite a bit about what her intentions are. she s been careful to toe the line. but i would be stunned if we just saw bare bones indictments. i think what we re going to see
quite a long time. and a lot of it has played out in front of the press. what i would imagine, jamie gangel, is one of the main exhibits is the complete audiotape of trump calling the secretary of state and telling him to find, i think it s 11,780 votes. i think that s the number. that is correct. thank you. and most important, only one more than was needed. one more than needed. that s something that we learned because somebody in raffensperger s office, presumably, gave the recording to the washington post. and we learned that almost two years ago. and every time we hear that recording, it s as if it s the first time again. yeah, shocking. it is stunning. look, to laura s point about we expected this, i think it was about a week or ten days ago that fani willis said, we re ready to go. clearly she was ready to go. we don t know all the names of the people who were indicted. but certainly donald trump and
there will be a litany of folks that want a copy of this. i imagine they re expecting that as well. nothing particularly unusual expect that this is an unusual case, should not typically take this long and would not. do you have any read on, given fani willis history, what kind of, how specific these indictments may be. are they speaky indictments? what are you trexpecting? i think she will try to tell the story in the indictment. she said people want to know what happened. i wouldn t be surprised if this is a seasoningal indictment with a lot of defendants named in the indictment. that s very possible because again if you re talking about a rico case where she s naming several people, she s talking about the scheme and remember that rico really is just being able to talk about everybody s dirty laundry and not just one defendant s problems and the allegations against that one