the state department. does your reporting and timeline suggest that that wasn t the whole truth? exactly. it definitely raises additional questions about exactly what mr. giuliani was up to at the time. we did talk to one source very familiar with the conversation between giuliani and tymoshenko, who said that giuliani was quote/unquote, trolling for business, but also, you know, had an interest in talking politics with tymoshenko. and at this time, you have to remember that tymoshenko was up in the polls. everyone thought she would win the presidential election. now, she s in the u.s. during this time period and she s meeting with a lot of different people, including sort of lower-level officials like kurt volcker who we know about, state department official george kent, and thrown in the mix is rudy giuliani. and so this definitely raises additional questions and sort of points to the fact that giuliani has perhaps talked about politics with ukrainian officials, things like aid,