smidgen or debris of human error you can t control. that will always be the case. but also the opposing case, they always try to get themselves out of a bad situation. you have lectured on a lot of bad accidents and those kinds of things. they are flying around at 6:00 a.m. and know there are thunderstorms and it s monsoon season and bad weather. you have a call saying you want to go from 36000, go around the storms at 38000. five minutes off radar is that an eternity or just like that? in a cockpit that can be very quickly. if things happen they downgraded everything from the storm sits to be increased in
so what does the u.s. do about it? you always talk about how the presidents do in lame duck sessions, they focus on foreign policy. cuba, something he planned and something for his legacy but then these other challenges that he can t control. north korea, a major attack on a major company. this is a new challenge unexpected. and there will be a lot of pressure on him, how do you respond, how do you retaliate without sparking something bigger. north korea is a very testy country, to say the least, and you don t want to provoke something bigger, including the possibility of military action, another possibility of a nuclear test or missile test. these are things that we do not want showing north korea that you want to stand up. but the second thing, this is the other real challenge, how does the u.s. protect other companies from this going forward? what is the president going to say today about this? because u.s. companies have been getting hacked by chinese companies for years now at t
so what role did president putin play in the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17 and how should we respond? i have two terrific guests to talk about this, stephen cohen is professor emeritus of russian studies at new york university and princeton university, chrystia freeland is a member of parliament in canada and a former top journalist at reuters and the financial times. steve, let me ask you the russian government s position is that this is the ukrainian government s fault because not only does it control, is meant to control the territory of ukraine but more importantly that kiev has been fermenting and behave be irresponsibly. this is a charge you support and outline in a big article in the nation magazine. why do you think the russians
so what role did president putin play in the downing of malaysian airlines flight 17 and how should we respond? i have two terrific guests to talk about this, stephen cohen is professor emeritus of russian studies at new york university and princeton university, chrystia freeland is a member of parliament in canada and a former top journalist at reuters and the financial times. steve, let me ask you the russian government s position is that this is the ukrainian government s fault because not only does it control, is meant to control the territory of ukraine but more importantly that kiev has been fermenting conflict and behaving irresponsibly. this is a charge you support and outline in a big article in the nation magazine. why do you think the russians are right? well, the late senator moynihan said all of us are entitled to our own opinion but not to our facts. the biggest fact missing from
now, wolf, that putin has created a proxy force in the eastern ukraine which he can t control. he s armed it, sent trainers in, he s obviously sending money in. the evidence is very good in a situation like this. the question is will he give up eastern ukraine or will he continue to fight on. it s unknown now. pamela, you ve been reporting about the fbi agents who are heading to the scene. what doctor you learned? wolf, we ve learned that two fbi agents, a general investigator and a forensic expert are en route to kiev, ukraine right now. they re going to stay under the umbrella of the u.s. embassy and wait for more direction. the big concern is safe passage to that crime scene which is in a disputed territory. it s a hostile environment. we learned early today that some european investigators experienced it firsthand.