it? well, this is a, jenna, this is a coalition effort. this is not the united states taking the lead. this is the nato countries, hopefully with arab countries as part of this, working to degrade the libyan military capabilities, to boost the rebels, to strike down the air defenses of libya, to push aside the ghadafi regime. you know, you can t just say that for sure all of your goals are going to happen. i think what the administration is doing is setting a stage for a stronger coalition nato effort, and the president has said everybody wants ghadafi out. the guy is a madman, he s capable of very irrational things, and it s up to the libyan people, also, the rebels, to take some of these steps that are needed to bring a provisional a government of the
that has to be put together and started right away. even though there s a cease fire, i hope the people who are authorizing and organizing this will demand that they put the aircraft overhead to enforce the cease fire, and that s a legitimate request. then the question will be how do we get on the ground and use the leverage provided by the no-fly zone to then take action against ghadafi? it s clear, as secretary of state clinton says when she says he has to leave, that s representing the intent of the united states government to force ghadafi out. so this is the united states v. ghadafi. i don t think we re going to want to lose this. so the action shifts to diplomacy. what we have to anticipate ghadafi s going to be doing meanwhile is consolidating his gains, running his intelligence agents forward into the rebel-held areas trying to identify the leaders and threaten them and their families. so this is a tough phase of a continuing struggle. jon: during your answer you used the phr