clearing the park. and they went up and protesters kind of scattered about. you had people go off, who went home, they said, that s enough, after the tear gas and flashbangs. they did scatter to different areas. that s what you saw in the involve the shooting, where it was a crowded group of people, but you had a significant amount of people still lingering in some cases, some people who say they were there protecting businesses. it led to that clash that eventually became deadly. you always have that transition of people, where it goes from the large groups of people during the day, and it shifts to some evening confrontations with the police. and once things kind of get out of control, once things go on side streets and in other areas, it leads to those more risky confrontations. and in this case it resulted in the lives of two people. i want to talk about the judge, julius. i ve got two questions on the judge. number one, he dropped a couple of the counts, a couple of the
0 a jury of his peers found kyle rittenhouse not guilty on all counts. rittenhouse collapsed in the kenosha, wisconsin courtroom as the final not guilty verdict was read. rittenhouse himself took the stand in his own defense, a risky move that approved successful for the defense. in and out conversation will turn to what s going to happen next. what affect will this case have on things like vigilanteism and self-defense arguments? not to mention what happens immediately in the city of kenosha. joining me from the courthouse in kenosha, wisconsin, nbc correspondent shaquille brewster. former federal prosecutor paul butler. nbc legal analyst danny cevallos. and former assistant district attorney in milwaukee county, julius kim. shaq, what is it like in kenosha right now? katy, when that verdict was read we saw a large group of people on the courthouse steps. this was something highly anticipated especially as the jury got into day four of deliberations. but then someone came out of the
truth and knowing how they re going to be attack by the right. the message is getting out there and the cover up of mccarthy and the west of republicans are trying is failing. as you mentioned, that as expect is important because it goes to the intent of the mob. the mob was authoritarian and it did not support democracy. a big part is racist. willing to commit crime against the government, participating in what was explicitly accidentally. there were mobs who get out of control. this is quite an organized effort from the start, the entire gathering purpose. that was why it was with january 6th and 21st.
military career, with his governmental career, and he looked at trump as an aberration and someone who was not a serious person. someone who we had to deal with because ultimately he was elected. and i think when he started taking him more and more seriously is when he saw the demagoguery get out of control, when he saw the autocratic tendencies come to the surface. and, of course, when we saw him early on knocking the p.o.w.s and challenging them, and then ultimately a great disrespect to the military, that cut to the heart of john mccain and his life. and i did mention there i talked to john three times on the day that trump said, mccain is not a hero because he was shot down, and p.o.w.s then weren t heroes.
and the state still a mess and gets more expensive, they ve really run to end of the rope and that s why you have legislature in new jersey say no to governor on additional millionaire s tax. right. the last when they tried and the governor says they will keep spending like a crazy person. heather: other things that were not included in the budget and we can bring those back up for everyone, opioid makers, gun sales, companies that don t offer health insurance, those were also proposed by governor murphy. when you allow spend to go get out of control you become desperate for more revenue, more taxes, we have opioid crisis, what they want to do is raise taxes on people who use pain killers legitimately in order to fight the other problem, just damages everyone who needs pain