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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:11:00

appeal. i m really copeland, we need your georgia expertise to untangle what is going on in the speedy trial situation, which suddenly just became, maybe, not so speedy. district attorney willis saying, to the judge, wait a minute, you have, in effect, with your scheduling order for one trial, for one defendant, severed that defendant without there being a motion to sever. district attorney willis is saying, we have to all get back together in court and talk about this. that s exactly what she is saying. the statute does give the judge the discretion to sever it, as long as he s not violating the law, or making it a fact, he has the discussion to separate. notice in the hearing, the hallmarks of a legal system. that s what i think miss willis is saying. we want to be heard on this before you do it. mr. chesebro as filed a demand for a speedy trial. under georgia statute, if he

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 00:22:00

there is some kind of splintering from the rest of the defendants, and that could depend on perhaps, strategy. explain that to us. i think part of it is that when the first request was made, by cheseboro, he thought that he would catch fani willis not ready. and that he would have an advantage, and that the trial would start within the legally mandated time of the georgia statute. which means that under georgia statute, the trial had to start by november 3rd. once he saw that he was wrong and she said, fine, let s go, i m ready, others may have thought, well, i ll get in on this. i ll be severed from donald trump s trial by joining this early trial date. because donald trump is going to delay, delay, delay, divert, that is his pattern and practice. and so i ll be tried separately, and that gives me a break.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Katie Phang Show 20240604 12:55:00

even though he s made his demand, and that date has been set for october, there is what s known as six quotable delay, war judgment for the delay a trial date while it works through these pre trial motions. barb, of got 30 seconds. i wanted to ask you a follow-up on that then, this is a speedy demand, this is his ability by right under georgia statute. to go to trial by october 23rd. if the state isn t ready to go, could charges be dismissed? absolutely. he has that absolute right. sometimes defendants will assert their speedy trial right in an effort to keep a prosecutor, you, know catch them flat-footed and not ready to go. that happens from time to time. fani willis says she s ready. this delay we saw from january where we had the special grand jury, to the filing of the indictment, was what she was doing during that time was getting ready for trial in case it was a speedy trial demand. my bet is that she ll be ready to go. barbara mcquade, always keeping it tight and given us

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 11:22:00

you with us. jill, i ll start with you because of the legal aspect that we are talking about, and our colleague lisa really pointed this out clearly earlier today. she said that this news, that john eastman will likely join sydney powell and ken cheseboro in demanding a speedy trial in fulton county, signals that there is some kind of splintering from the rest of the defendants, and that could depend on perhaps, strategy. explain that to us. i think part of it is that when the first request was made by kenneth chesebro, he thought that he would catch fani willis not ready. and that he would have an advantage, and that the trial would start within the legally mandated time of the georgia statute. which means that under georgia statute, the trial had to start by november 3rd. once he saw that he was wrong and she said, fine, let s go, i m ready, others may have thought, well, i ll get in on this.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 03:22:00

that we are talking about, and our colleague lisa really pointed this out clearly earlier today. she said that this news, that john eastman will likely join sydney powell and ken cheseboro in demanding a speedy trial in fulton county, signals that there is some kind of splintering from the rest of the defendants, and that could depend on perhaps, strategy. explain that to us. i think part of it is that when the first request was made, by cheseboro, he thought that he would catch fani willis not ready. and that he would have an advantage, and that the trial would start within the legally mandated time of the georgia statute. which means that under georgia statute, the trial had to start by november 3rd. once he saw that he was wrong and she said, fine, let s go, i m ready, others may have thought, well, i ll get in on this. i ll be severed from donald trump s trial by joining this early trial date. because donald trump is going to delay, delay, delay, divert,

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