but this is more than just about his so-called perfect phone call with georgia secretary of state. this according to fani willis is about an orchestrated and organized effort to pressure georgia lawmakers in fulton county election workers to overturn legitimate results. phil and poppy, trump and his codefendants have until august 25th to turn themselves in. nick valencia live outside the fulton county courthouse. thank you. poppy. let s go through all of this with elie honig. good morning. great to have you. walk us through first who got charged. poppy, the fourth indictment has now landed. just to orient people because there s so many of these. let s take a moment. we have seen the new york state charge relating to hush money that indictment came back in april. the two jack smith federal cases in d.c. and mar-a-lago, florida, those have already been indicted. now we have the indictment in georgia state court for the attempt to interfere with the georgia results of the 2020 elect
prosecutor or a fair-minded expert would say the calls are and the d.a. doesn t claim that. this is important. we re going to hear more about this going into cases and trials. what this d.a. is saying and what legal experts and rico experts will tell you is those calls are now evidence amidst the wider plots. they become acts to advance the conspiracy precisely because there was a conspiracy, because there was evidence of the wider plots involving several people. and again, a plot was not to chat with officials, double-check the numbers. the plot was to illegally steal and overturn the results. to take trump s lie that he won and try to criminally enact it. that s why the other trump aides are charged now for the first time. some of them are more associated, frankly, with propaganda than other types of physical criminality. take trump s spokesperson and lawyer jenna ellis. after trump lost and again,
he took steps to hide behind them. he was so hell bent on doing this he got involved with fingerprints. he was a hands-on conspirator according to the indictment, which has evidence of trump placing calls, demanding people join the coup. this is new from just what we got late last night. calls to the georgia senate leader, calls to georgia s republican governor who today spoke it again about trump s lies on this score. calls to georgia s attorney general, the top law enforcement official. and calls and efforts to get other critical voting officials to somehow join his out-of-sate coup option. now, in fairness to donald trump or any candidate scrutinizing their own results or loss, let s be clear those calls alone, absent everything else, would not legally be indictable. that is, i don t think a
he lost in those few days after the first vote. it was tabulated. everybody called it the a.p., fox news, everyone. donald trump lost, biden won. biden s president-elect. ms. ellis spent those first few weeks in 2020 telling anyone that would listen a lie. she was out there lying and saying donald trump, quote, won in a landslide. seemed desperate, even frankly bizarre at the time. here is what this now indicted defendant claims in our november 2020 interview. our strategy is to make sure we continue to challenge all of these false and fraudulent results. the point of this of course is to get to fair and accurate results, because the election was stolen and president trump won by a landslide. i just quoted you a whole range of sources, including the wall street journal let me finish. i m trying to answer your question. i understand, but you made a mis old on.
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