credibility. and if the jury rules out what you ve gone for, it s harder to come down. you re asking them to say i ve argued a and b, reject a but embrace b. but your credibility is shot, because a, which was your more powerful argument, didn t work. remember, initially there was no charge at all. this was a murky, as powerful as the emotions are because of an innocent young man shot dead, as a legal matter it was always a tough case. they overreached a bit and that probably hurt them. the other issue is the jury selection. i m not sure it s an art, but the jury selection in retrospect you begin to wonder in the voir dire they shouldn t have been able to tease out something about these jurors as prosecutors that indicated almost a sympathy for the defendant and certainly when you heard the juror who has spoke about talking about george this, george that, we didn t know much about trayvon
hit him. so you think based on the testimony you heard, you believe that trayvon martin was the aggressor? i think the roles changed. i think i think george got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn t have been there, but trayvon decided that he wasn t going to let him scare him and get the one over up on him or something, and i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. do you feel like you know for sure what happened in the altercation? and did the other jurors feel for sure that they knew what happened? nobody knew exactly what happened. i mean, it started at one point and ended at another point. witnesses said they heard left to right movement. other witnesses said they heard right to left movement. but the credible witnesses said they heard left to right movement. so whatever happened, i think the punch came and then they
a number of videotapes. he walked police through a re-enactment of what he said happened. how important were those videotapes to you? i don t really know. because, i mean, watching the tapes there s always something in the back saying, is it is it right? is it consistent? but with all the evidence of the phone calls and all the witnesses that he saw, i think george was pretty consistent and told the truth, basically. i m sure there were some fabrications, enhancements. but i think pretty much it happened the way george said it happened. when george zimmerman said that trayvon martin reached for his gun, there was no dna evidence, and the defense said, well had testimony well, it could have got washed off in the rain or the like. do you believe that trayvon martin reached for george zimmerman s gun? i think he might have. i think george probably thought that he did because george was the one who knew that george was
that george zimmerman had a number of people who appeared in court who gave great character witness for him. and that clearly impacted on the jury. you could hear that jury last night talking about george this, george that. she felt an engagement with him on a human level. which i don t think any of them felt with trayvon martin because the again, i blame the prosecution for this. i blame them for many things. you know, overcharging in the first place. had they gone for manslaughter, they may have gotten a conviction. i think the way that they built up a picture of trayvon was unsuccessful. rachel jeantel told us more about trayvon martin last night in 25 minutes than i heard in the entire trial. and you got a picture not of an aggressive thug but of a rather sweet, quite quiet young teenager going about his business. never been in much trouble. took a little bit of weed. well, you know, a lot of teenagers do that. a lot of adults do that. somebody who was very unlikely to be the ins
carrying a gun. and he was aware of that. you can t say for sure whether or not trayvon martin knew that george zimmerman was carrying a gun? no. so you can t say for sure whether or not trayvon martin reached for that gun? right. but that doesn t make it right. i mean, it doesn t there s not a right or a wrong. even if he did reach for the gun, it doesn t make any difference. how so? well, because george had a right to protect himself at that point. so you believe that george zimmerman really felt his life was in danger? i do. i really do. do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? i think he did. what makes you think that? because of the evidence on the t, or on the sidewalk, where george says he was punched. there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there. and then a little bit farther down there was a flashlight that he was carrying. and i think that s where trayvon