George had a desk in 1939, 1940, 41, close to george orwell. George had lived through the story i tell on both sides of the atlantic. When i think about the book, and i am sorry you didnt live. He died a few months ago. He didnt live to read the book, but he was a kind of inspiration for the book. His life story and his world, the world of literature and learning through politics and society. The mac i can say without argue you wouldve liked the book. Mark, thank you. Congratulations. Guest thank you. Hell sell professor richard gamble, when did the phrase city on the hill originate . Guest at originate the new testament in the gospel of matthew and it made its way into American History by way of a speech or discourse written by a puritan governor John Winthrop back in 1630 and he wrote what became later a very famous speech called the body of Christian Charity and gradually the phrase, city on a hill, came to describe america. One of the things that most interest you then is how ameri