A logical survey studying earthquake prediction and behavior but he s also fascinated by how people behave in response to natural disasters our fear of randomness puts our focus onto the response to the moment it s Aster happens and makes listening to urban planners and building officials before the event more difficult and supporting our firemen during the event coming up Lucy Jones joins us in studio to talk about her book The big ones all natural disasters have shaped us and what we can do about them and that s next after this. Live from n.p.r. News in Washington I m Steve Inskeep President Trump is defending a 2016 hush money payments to women who say they had affairs with him but Trump insisted in a Fox News interview that the payments did not amount to any violation of federal laws they were taken out of campaign finance that s a big thing that s a much bigger thing did they come out of the campaign didn t come out of a campaign they came for me and I tweeted about it and I put