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Safety camera van at Ribblehead WITH reference to Parish councils group against speeding motorcyclists in the Dales , (Craven Herald letters). Non bikers do find bikes to be very quick when observing them from the roadside, it s to some extent a product of the size of the bike in relation to its apparent speed, and the noise of some bikes. We all know that some of the bikers do go more quickly than perhaps they should - this often happens just the same with some car drivers but they tend to be less remarkable. I would think that just as important as this speeding issue are the following: