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it s still roe v. wade, and that s what s at stake. that s what s going to drive the conversation more than anything else. it will be the hearing, getting the answers. so you say when the democrats get on message? i think it would be a genius choice for trump to pick amy barrett. just on the virtue of the fact that if roe is going to go, he could point and say it was a woman who brought it down. it wasn t five men versus four women. a woman would take it down. that would work perfectly for trump. quick last word? i think women out there are not going to get over the fact that donald trump of all people is the one stripping them of their reproductive rights. a man who s probably paid for a few abortions himself is going to destroy health care for my daughter. tom goldstein as always, thank you, sus, michelle, beth. we ve got a lot more. next on this independence day eve, patriot games. who s proud to be an american? and who s proud of america?