version of the bush administration. we re going to get into that with mollie hemingway and charlie hurt. but for decades we ve seen members of both parties attack at the core of the america-first agenda. i inherited a nation that had a serious loss of credibility around the world as america first. we ve seen nationalism distorted into nativeism. unrestrained nationalism is the last refuge of those who cannot or will not deliver real progress and opportunity for their own people at home. laura: well, that old regime is gone, and i don t think it s ever coming back, certainly not in the republican party. and now we have some new opportunities and candidates with actual back bones. we know donald trump has one. his anti war record is well-documented. and ron desantis, well, we re going to see more about what he believes on all the issues that we care about as his campaign goes forward. but both have pretty much shown us that their desire is to put america first, american
laura: and, matt, is that where the extremism angle would work for republicans as kind of a deflection? like you want to see extremism, look at what they endorse, and then you go to the, you know, crazy gender bending stuff and the proselytizing to the children about all these issues. is that how you would, that? it s certainly going to work with a certain segment of the voters and it will have a play in all of this. i don t know. byron just nailed it on the head. there is always a shiny object to look at, maga extremists, whatever, that seems to divert attention and once again as i said, a lot of the media aids that as we all know and you agree laura. so we re going to have to see where this goes. laura: byron, matt, great to see both of you, have a great rest of the weekend