The precise individuals except in the cases where involve u. S. War fighters overseas, im sure he knows its karzai saying to chief of staff, whether he knew it was Angela Merkel talking on her cell phone, i dont know. What weve seen is the nsa is just one of those organizations that if it can do it, it will do it. These are young, technophyles they solve these puzzles for the challenge they got out of control. I like to the sorcerers, all the buckets of water. It just got out of control. Schieffer what it does kind of make you wonder, doesnt it, david, maybe just because were reporters, but im sitting here reading this or getting this intelligence brief, wouldnt you say, how do you know that . In the first year of presidency i could image in a president not knowing it. By year five you have to say, at some point hes likely to of a asked that question. If he didnt, its almost certain that many of his National Security aides would have. Because while the president gets as david indicated