reaffirm the fierce that the judicial system is not set up to protect people, particularly people of color. she tried to stand up for what was right and ended up getting overruled. this juror, b-37, spoke exclusively to anderson cooper. she said george zimmerman had a right to defend himself. because of the heat of the moment and the stand your ground. if he felt threatened his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right. that s a very different statement. she also said to anderson that she thought george zimmerman s heart was in the right place. that s very different from this new juror coming out who says she s thinks george zimmerman is guilty of murder. no question. she doesn t really address anything about self-defense. during jury selection, she did not say she was puerto rican. it did not come up. i don t believe in the
i want you to recall what she said as opposed to juror b-37, what she told anderson cooper about ten days or so ago. listen to this. what did you think of george zimmerman? are. i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done. all right, jeanne, go ahead and compare these two women. one is saying that george zimmerman got away with murder but there was no enough evidence to convict him. another one giving a little bit different nuance there. the jury determines the issues of fact. i think these jurors are diametrically opposed as to what they believe factually was the case but they had to look at the law. obviously the juror that
welcome back. we re talking about race and justice in america, and the notion that the vast majority of americans, as many as 85%, say they are not prejudiced. even though study after study shows otherwise. not that people are good or bad, just whether we acknowledge it or not, whether we admiter to ourselves or not, race registers. we make assumptions based on it, whether we know it or not. many court watchers argued in the wake of the zimmerman trial that race and assumptions about race are baked into the criminal justice system. look to what juror b-37 told me in our interview recently. do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision, his view of trayvon martin as suspicious? i don t think he did. i think just circumstances caused george to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the
race are baked into the criminal justice system. look to what juror b-37 told me in our interview recently. do you feel that george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin? do you think race played a role in his decision, his view of trayvon martin as suspicious? i don t think he did. i think just circumstances caused george to think that he might be a robber or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood, because of all that had gone on previously. there were unbelievable number of robberies in the neighborhood. so you don t believe race played a role in this case? i don t think it did. i think if there was another person, spanish, white, asian, if they came in the same situation where trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. she clearly identified with george zimmerman. she could relate to his experience, and largely saw the
piece was that i think that the jurors, especially when you listen to b-37, sort of had these racial biases, these notions running in the backdrop of their mind. it was clear in that interview, it was an us and them reaction. she didn t find rachel relatable. she did relate to george zimmerman. so i think it was race was that elephant in the room that made its way into the jury room. mark, you said after jury selection when there was no african-american on the jury, you said this trial is over. and we saw that it was. i mean, there is no way that you can divorce race from the criminal justice system in america. i don t care where you are, where you re trying a case, race is absolutely the central feature of the criminal justice system. it has been for over 100 years. it is as much today as it ever has been. i mean, we may not overtly talk