it s going to happen. on the other side his advisers were saying, you are against same-sex marriage as are 70% of the american public. this bill will affect nobody. you re six weeks out of an election. we ll deal with it later if it comes to pass. can i just add, too? remember, when it was introduced in the senate there were only two co-sponsors, and bob dole was one of them. right. i don t think any of us i voted against it, as did jerry. profiles in courage, right here. i m serious. it was very difficult to do, no matter where you were from. but it was like a brush fire. i mean, you know how slow congress is now? you can t get anything through. you can t name a post office, for crying out loud. this thing went at a thousand miles an hour because it must have been karl rove or somebody came up with this, saying if we do this, we can how does it affect his legacy? i mean, it s certainly a blemish on his legacy. he was on the wrong side of
recognize there was no discussion of that at all. the whole thing was, my god, if hawaii legalized same-sex marriage it s going to force arizona to recognize it and force this one. that was the whole debate on both sides. it was the fear of the full faith and credit, part of the constitution. literally. you remember when people would go to nevada to get a divorce and everybody had to recognize it. it was like, oh, my goodness, here comes hawaii and those crazy people out there are going to well, everyone will run and get married and come back. and it was really kind of an anti-court thing, too. this is going to come through the courts because i think they felt so secure that if it was on the ballot, they d be safe. i was on the judiciary committee, too, with jerry. it was a very painful time. extremely painful. bob barr, married multiple times, our lead guy talking about how he was having to defend marriage. i remember many of us making catty stachlcat catty statements like
balder, then married version of the same jerry brown who fought the briggs initiative in the 70s paved the way for what the supreme court did this past week. the state of california refused to defend prop 8, anti-gay marriage activists stride to step in to make the case. the supreme court ruled wednesday they didn t have standing to do so. that meant lower court s ruling stood, which meant gay marriage became legal again in california. it meant that jerry brown, now once again governor jerry brown, could order his state to be allowed what happened on friday. by virtue of the power and authority vested in me, by the state of california, i now declare you spouses for life. you know, so congresswoman schroeder, we talked about bill clinton, the complicated legacy there. jerry brown ran against bill
he did, although he did invite a referendum. he didn t telegraph which position he would take on a referendum, if any. he said he would be against it. it s interesting so watch the polling on new jersey because it s a progressive state. you look at maine last year, these things started passing in some blue states last year. i think it would pass in new jersey if they put it on the ballot. also new jersey, if the supreme court of new jersey said, you have to have something equivalent to marriage and civil unions may be that, now clearly civil unions is not equivalent to marriage because it doesn t come under the aegis of civil union. you go to jerry is right. here s what s going to happen next in these cases. in all of these states, all the purple states for sure, but even in some of the red states, plaintiffs, real people who want to get married, are going to take the supreme court decision in the windsor case, in the doma case, not prop 8, but doma,
will happen next. we have a map. you can put that up. the blue states it s legal. california now has flipped. a few other states in recent months have flipped like minnesota, rhode island. green is what i want to focus on right now. you see a couple green. these are states that have civil unions, domestic partnerships, rights of marriage without calling it marriage. in new jersey, particularly interesting one there because the question is, the legislature, the democratic legislature in virginia excuse me, in new jersey, you have votes there for gay marriage. you have a republican govr governor, chris christie, who has vetoed it. the question, a, will the legislature now override chris christie? the second question in new jersey is the state supreme court a few years ago ruled you can t distinguish you can have civil unions, call them civil unions as long as you get everything you get in a marriage. with doma now being that s clearly not right. you have federal benefits for