i do think, though, to get back to your question, david, back in 1973 with roe v. wade, everyone said, this is a fargone conclusion. it s going to be back-burnered. to this day it remains probably the most divisive issue in american politics. if you look at some of the changing attitudes you say, wow. we re beginning to affect the young with the pro-life message. you don t think the gay marriage debate is over? no, i don t think it is. i think of thanksgiving as i think of the holidays generally as a wonderful opportunity to separate from our lives and to think about gratitude. however, i don t have to tell you how commercial these holidays become and we think more about recipes for the holiday. let me ask you, your eminence. what s your recipe for expressing gratitude?
bite here from cardinal dolan talking about same sex marriage on meet the press . david, back in 1973 with row v. wade, everybody said this is a far gone conclusion, in a couple year this is issue will go away, it will be back burnered. to this day, it remains probably the most divisive issue in american politics and as you look at some of the changing attitudes, you say, wow, we re beginning to affect the young with the pro-life message. so you don t think the gay marriage debate is over? i don t think it is. father, are you with him on that, that the issue of same-sex marriage is becoming more divisive? is. i try not to ever disagree with cardinal dolan. he s bigger than i am and he wears a red hat. on the other hand, as a social scientist, i look at the data. and it s quite clear that there is a tsunami of young people coming that see no problem with gay marriage and this is not
to do it? look, i know if you re in an individual southern state and you have a conservative congressional district, this is not something that you want. but big picture for the republican party, wouldn t you make the argument? absolutely. i actually think it s good policy and it would be good politics if they passed it. that s part of the party s image problem right now, especially if you re looking towards 2016. now, granted in the midterm it may not be the best politics for some folks, but looking at 2016, when you want to win national elections, this party has to show that there is some things that they are open to and that they re not just the party of no. if there is a problem here, it seems to be a problem of misinformation. i saw it i was living in california at the time of the gay marriage debate and i remember a cab driver telling me that his preacher was saying from the pulpit if we pass this, i will be forced to marry gay couples and that s against what i want to do,
particularly in terms of being safe. i think for the audience it was meaningful because there was enough time that had passed that they had fallen in love with the character of will and really started to invest in his happiness and had fully had fully accepted who he was. so to flash back to see that pivotal moment just made it it was a very special moment. and it was also the surprise. they didn t know that we were in love and engaged at any time. so that is we willy the big surprise of the episode. when you see the impact that i had, and again going back to the biden clip there, when you look at washington and the ridiculous shutdown of the government and the squabbling over the debt ceiling, all this stuff we ve all had to endure the last two weeks. do you think there should be some kind of show on television which does for the washington dysfunction what will and grace did for the gay marriage debate and the gay rights
say that out loud and it was coming out for him in a way and particularly in terms of being safe. i think for the audience it was meaningful because there was enough time that had passed that they had fallen in love with the character of will and really started to invest in his happiness and had fully had fully accepted who he was. so to flash back to see that pivotal moment just made it it was a very special moment. and it was also the surprise. they didn t know that we were in love and engaged at any time. so that is we willy the big surprise of the episode. when you see the impact that i had, and again going back to the biden clip there, when you look at washington and the ridiculous shutdown of the government and the squabbling over the debt ceiling, all this stuff we ve all had to endure the last two weeks. do you think there should be some kind of show on television which does for the washington dysfunction what will and grace did for the gay marriage