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Transcripts for CNN CNN Tonight 20240604 01:19:00

flushed documents found clogging the white house toilet or torn up so they had to be taped back together, preferably not after they were in the toilet because i feel bad for the person who had to do that. boxes of classified documents were also sent to mar-a-lago instead of where they re supposed to be sent. it s called the national archives. i m joined now by a digital forensic investigator, gary kessler. gary, i m so glad you re here, because while people are wondering where these messages are gone, and oh, they re just gone, they ve gone poof into the ether, i m always wondering is there a way to get it back. are these really gone or are they gone for now? because when you delete a text message, they don t really go away fully, right? well, it depends how efficiently the wiping was done. if in fact wiping is the correct term. so on a cellphone, as you justified observed with your question, if all you do is delete a message, then the

Transcripts for CNN CNN Tonight 20240604 05:22:00

and you would possibly want to wipe the phone so that no remnants of the old user continue on with a new user. so, yes, it is a delivered act and purposeful, it is not necessarily a nefarious action. that is an important distinction. we have no indication that this is the very. the idea of how one more to do this, i think is fascinating because, just the idea of the leading it, versus wiping, it s going to be the key inquiry going forward. gary kessler, thank you for your expertise. thank you. i want to turn now to miles taylor and the chief of staff at homeland security during the trump administration, also elliott williams who served both the doj and the dhs. miles, elliott, he made a good moment there. the idea of, look, just because you delete it, does not mean it is nefarious for ripping it. it could be part of the course of things, however, this sort of notion of all these coincidences, i mean, at some point, if it walks like a duck and a top like a duck, i mean quack quack.

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