legal. so we ll be talking with a former attorney general michael mukasey, why a ruling took this long and what it would take to make the spying program legit. martha: plus more twisters turning up yesterday as a series of strong storms passed through the midwest. we ll check the damage, tell you what is going on for the weekend. and the debate is raging over terrorism and free speech. was the draw the prophet contest down in texas that the two gunmen tried to attack a useless provocation or a reminder not to take our rights for granted? our political panel is here to debate it. you are enforcing sharia law. how are we doing that. by making me the bad guy. oh, my god. it was not just a contest. you are not even informed. excuse me, sir. you are hurting our cause what you re doing.
martha: some tough questions for the woman who set up draw the prophet contest in texas that ended with security guard wounded and two ice significance linked attackers dead. pamela geller is arguing that the it was about free speech and not designed to incite violence. what i find galling my motives have continually questioned by media, not jihadist motives. what is her motive. what is her motive? look at my work, 10 years after 9/11 i ve been opposing sharia and jihad. media that have created these myths about me. but i ask you why haven t the media addressed motives behind. hang on. hang on. i have yet to meet an american let me jump in here. one question. why hasn t media addressed
let s take you back and play some of the questions lynch took about the growing threat from isis on our homeland after the attack on the texas museum. reporters asked how locals will be kept in the loop when there is a threat targeting a local event. when information is determined to generate a threat to any police department we provide them with as much information as we can. in this situation there was an individual who was under scrutiny before but not active in the past. so the information provided because more limited than the garland police would have liked or hoped to see but all efforts were made to provide them with information and they were
people are using it as a reason to kill people. in this country we stand up for free speech an stand up for prespeech that offends people. stand up for free speech we don t personally like. if we don t stand up things just the free speech you like is free speech and that ain t free. martha: i hear you. but juan, i think the question becomes what is wise? how do we end this problem? how do we eradicate isis from the country? we hear there are 1000 plus, perhaps people who have this motivation in this country, we saw what happened at that texas conference. how do we stop it? is this best way? no, i think what pam geller is doing is provoking people unnecessarily. you know, again yes, she has the right to say what wans to say, but she has made this into i think a self-promotional crusade. she told you, martha, earlier this week, she considers herself to be rosa parks of free speech. give me a break. reality is here, what she is doing is trying, i think it
what a scary thing. phil, thank you. gregg: today we mark 70 years since the end of world war ii in europe. we may allow ourselves a brief period of rejoicing. today is victory in europe day. gregg: we re going to head to washington, d.c. to see today s ve day ceremonies. and take a look back at the many sacrifices made by those brave men and women of the greatest generation. martha: looking forward to that that s coming up. plus was the texas draw the muhammad event meant to provoke extremists or free speech? a big battle over this. our political panel weighs in on what pamela geller was thinking when she set up the contest and was she right? someone who was following someone you are starting sharia. you just go over people. i think you are a about