driving charg, they never game him an opportunity to get a ticket and keep going. there were fire, not one but five officers opinions what can be described as a gang mentality. what is going on here? have we so dehumanized the police over last few years. the police can no longer act human, these 5 sure did not. trey: i ve seen terrible things in my career as a prosecutor, i don t know that i have seen something it has been a long time since i saw something that struck me the way that beating of tyre nichol struck me. and okay. the murdoch case, how do you assess the strength of the
for how aggravated the officers were as they approached the scene. the simple answer is no. from the d.a., no. from the police chief, they have not found evidence leading up to this to in any way, shape or form that there was, a, reckless driving, and, b, any reason for this to get so hot, so fast, and be so aggressive. what you do hear on the tape is officers sound very angry when they pepper spray, because the pepper spray blows in their face and they blame it on tyre nichols. not on themselves, the ones that sprayed the pepper spray so close up. they blame it both two officers, you hear them blaming tyre nichols for this. so you could hear the sort of swell, the heightened emotions. and one person described this as, in their minds, they looked like a pack of wolves. the group mentality happened. there was a gang mentality that happened and they, all of them in a fury, went after him.
there s a sense from what you re saying that police culture seems to supersede race in a lot of situations. when police are allowed for decade after decade to operate with impunity, you get almost sort of a gang mentality. you can do whatever you want to whoever you want. it doesn t matter, and the officers who do speak up, and i have talked to officers who have said this, that the one guy who decides to speak up is branded an outcast or a snitch. look what s happened, you know, to some of the officers who have spoken about january 6th and how they were treated. you know, by fellow officers. is that what this is, a culture problem that s bigger than necessarily just the race of the officers? it s 100% a culture problem. old school policing lore says if a guy tries to run when officers want to arrest him, he pays for it. bad apple cops follow that principle, but that s not what the majority of hard working law
whether it s on immigration, guns, any issue for that matter. to expect i keep hearing this refrain which is when will republicans dot, dot, dot. the republican party of today is not the same republican party that we saw okay, let me throw something out. what do we make of who kevin mcleanen did today? that was an interesting moment. i wonder if i connect it to meaning here s somebody who feels, hey, you know what, i got nothing to lose, and i i think i want to get off the trump train. he s a career guy. right. and that is a crucial distinction here. in any authoritarian regime, everything relies around political loyalty to the man at the top. you have in washington called a deep state, call it the government, full of career people, inspectors general, career people like mcleanen. or the ambassador to career foreign service many of the people who left the state department and elsewhere rather than deal with the gang mentality that leads to
i think biden s apology is strange. there was a dramatic decline in crime over the last decades in the crime bill probably had something to do with it. there might be good parts to the crime bill and bad parts to the crime bill. i don t know enough about the differences between crack and criminality and other types of cocaine and criminality. the argument here is that people who were doing crack were treated differently than people doing powder cocaine. i don t know the details of this world. i ve never tried a drug in my life. anyway. [laughter] my point is there might have been a criminality aspect, a gang mentality, i don t know, that had to do with crack cocaine. all we know is that we saw dramatic reductions in crime. juan: didn t president trump and jared kushner didn t they do a greg: yes. juan: a lot of this is about high rates of people being incarcerated, especially minorities and poor people. dana: both things can be