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Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210830 12:26:00

wor worked with the occupiers, the occupiers being the u.s., if you worked with the then you must pay for that. you must go to court and suffer a punishment as a result of that, what they would see as a crime. you see the disparity of what the taliban says on the surface, which is exactly what the international community wants to hear, and what people who hold the same ideology as the taliban say privately, which is all these people must be punished and have to pay anything they did for the u.s. basically during the last 20 years. and that s why you have this incredibly high level of fear and anxiety among so many people. not just americans who could poe tepgsly be left behind, but many afghans who might be green card holders, might be sivs, special immigration visa holders or people who are part of the feminine rights activists, a lot

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210830 12:23:00

of people just snapping their fingers and forming a line outside the kabul airport. the fear that these americans have is that once the u.s. has eva evacuated, they will be in a situation where it s very difficult for them to get out. now, i want to say, though, the taliban has been clear on multiple occasions that it intends to honor its commitment to the international community to allow anyone who has the appropriate paperwork or anyone who is a foreign national to leave the country without problem. but for a lot of people on the ground understandably, they find it hard to trust in that. so there is a lot of fear and anxiety in these sort of final moments of this evacuation. i think it goes to the point of how quickly afghanistan fell, right? i know we ve all spoken with families who i ve spoken with one who, thank god, they are out now, but their flight back was in september. and the fall of kabul came just

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210830 12:22:00

the white house said there are still 350 some americans, americans. not special immigrant visa holders, who need to get out of the country. is there expectation as these final flights are going that those 350 will get out of the country by the end of the day? reporter: it s unclear at the moment. from what we re hearing from americans who are still on the ground, it s not looking positive. obviously, the u.s. has made a commitment to get its citizens out. i know when i ve spoken about this in the past, a lot of people react and say why did they take so long to get to the airport? or they shouldn t have waited so long. some of the americans i ve spoken to didn t wait so long. they have been trying for a while. but other people afghanistan is a huge country. and with all civilian air traffic basically not happening, if you re try ining to get fr harat to kabul airport by road, that takes some time. so it s not a case necessarily

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210830 12:35:00

watch the outflow. maybe a few 00 more will trickle. but thousands of afghans? i don t know about that. i agree with phil, these are not good guys. this is where diplomacy becomes more important. working with international partners on the ground, with those countries that still have their missions functioning on the ground, there has to be a lot of communication and coordination between those groups. that s how we re going to get there. it s not going to be perfect. it s not. but it s not in the taliban s interest to have dead americans and dead foreigners after august 31st, like lying around kabul, lying around the airport. can you address the issue of green card holders? just to be clear, we re talking about people who have lives and families in the u.s. they are legally protected residents, and it s really been difficult to even get a sense of how many might be remaining in afghanistan, but anecdotally, just journalists i m speaking with, people who are trying to help rescue peo

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20210830 12:53:00

amer americans and why christians are not unified when we should be. why do you think that is? during a pandemic that d demonstrabaly. many have received the vaccine, many are hesitant who are interested in getting it. we have to be patient with those working their way through this decision. evangelicals are having the same conversations every other group is having around the dinner ta table, work, and church, this is a time not for division, shaming, canceling but for unity, to work with each other and understand each other.

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