said he didn t know about it when it occurred, he found out about it after the fact. reporter: and kellyanne was asked if she saw a problem with in all these denials and contradictions. the president gale met with rudy giuliani and reporters with the washington post were able stwr struck a deal with president trump,like a denuclearization deal with north korea and trade with china and he would snow cuss on the legal issues. of course we know the president has had a difficult time staying disciplined when it comes to not chiming in about the special counsel and information confronting this white house, fred. boris sanchez at the white house, thank you very much. still a lot to break down, joining me now criminal defense