that s evident from the size of the church in colorado. was there a time you wanted to go and slide somewhere and not to be heard from again. yes absolutely and others wanted me to. mike: that s probably the case. probably some that shed never show your face again. never show your face again. one of the incredible things alexander pelosi, who is nancy pelosi s daughter, she told me when i was in that state, she said there is too much resurrection in you to stay hidden. and she says you will complete the story and it will be a resurrection story. and then she did the documentary, the trials of ted haggard. then that opened the door then in me. it started to speak the faith in me and the confidence in me and with gayle s decisions that she describes in her book, and the childrens decision, then i realized there is going to be life. there is going to be a family. there is going to be a future. and so that was part of the decision-making process that we went through.
walking away, yours is a story of encouragement, not an easy story, not one that everyone else can maybe duplicate simply. but an encouragement to many people. i want to thank you very much. both of you for being here. ted to you, gayle, thank you. again, the book is called why i stayed. gayle haggard. coming up, one of the youngest hartist in the music business katherine mcphee tells us how a teenager with low self-esteem became a confident performer who shinininin
radio feature in the past decade. 560 radio stations across america. you want to find the station nearest you or listen to past commentaries go to mike huckabee.com and click on the huckabee report. we are back with ted and gayle haggard. ted, before the break, talking about some of the things that led to this very serious crisis. we got a lot of emails, people wanted to know what was it that triggered in you that getting off the path? well, of course, i had the same question myself because i love the scriptures. i love the church. i love my wife and kids. i loved our relationship. and then i had this whole other thing develop in my life. so when we started going to counseling, that was the big question. what am i really? what is the process going on in me? how did this happen to me? i was wondering that about me. and as we worked through the process, i had had an unfortunate incident when i was in the second grade with one of my dad s employees it was a
anything like that. i mean, i didn t smoke pot in high school. i never took drugs. i never went to the parties. i never did anything like that. once i got once the incongruity developed in my life, it was so painful to me, i started spiraling. it was just an addictive behavior. it was just like so many other addictive behavior that alcoholics deal with or other people deal with with different issues. it started becoming compulsive with me. i was so ashamed of it and so desperately wanted to manage it myself i kept it a secret. mike: people were angry with you. yes. mike: very angry. mostly people from your church and congregation and i guess people from around the country would look to you as evangelical leader saw you, again, as a role model for pastors. how many of those folks have reconciled with you? well, now, now, many are. gayle s book coming out is very helpful to people because they read through it. and it starts to make sense. when people would be angry or judgmenta
cruel toward me, i felt like that was just. but when they are kind and compassionate and thoughtful toward me in the way that will be kind and helpful to us, i consider that a gift. and so i am very grateful to it. so i don t blame at all the people that have been through that process and continue to go through the process. mike: gayle, when you were here before, i was really taken by your sense of serenity. you were not angry. you didn t show bitterness. i was truly amazed by the countenance of your face when you recounted that, yes, you had been hurt. yes, other people had abandoned you, but you just kept going on. tell me advice for somebody out there who is hurting. because there are people watching us who are really, really hurting over something. it may not be exactly what you did. what advice would you give them? i don t want to minimize the hurting because it was very painful. i felt my heart was broken and i was losing everything that i