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That is noteworthy as well as who he works for. Chad herbrun is outside the room where theyre talking to mr. Sandy right now. Reporter hes been going for about four hours. Its significant that they have him here. Theyve been trying to get other omb officials in the door to understand why the aid was held up and eventually released. They tried to get the acting director in. They tried to get the actual director, Mick Mulvaney in, hes the acting white house chief of staff. Mark sandy is the first one who has come in to talk. Were told in the next half hour or so, he might depart. Four hours so far, hearing from mark sandy. Last they had another deposition, hearing from david holmes, a di pr blow matt who da diplomat who was at the u. S. Embassy in ukraine. He indicated he overheard a telephone call between Gordon Sondland and President Trump talking about, quote, investigations. That is key. Theyll have Gordon Sondland in next week. I talked to Debbie Wasserman schultz last night. She wa

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