and it all comes as the president is speaking out really for the first time about why he same thing. fired bolton. joining me now, democratic you played some of his sound but notably the president also slammed bolton for an early congressman who serves as the chairman of the oversight mistake he made. you may remember this one, ali, it s when bolton essentially subcommit of economsu subcommittee of consumer policy. referred to north korea within what s our major concern about the context of the libya model. vaping? is it these sudden, in the libya model, gadhafi was hard-to-explain lung illnesses that have cropped up or is it the idea that kids are getting killed by u.s. forces. hooked on these things across the country or is it both? those comments infuriated the i think it s both. north koreans and president this is a relatively new trump felt derailed any chances product. we don t have long-term studys on diplomacy. take a listen on what he had to on the health consequences but sa
night. well, first of all, let s talk about what you re addressing here. and i don t dispute anything that you re saying there. he s a brutal dictator. just like saddam hussein. just like gadhafi in libya. the reason that i m so outspoken on this issue of ending these wasteful regime change wars is because i have seen first hand this high human cost of war and the impact that it has on my fellow brothers and sisters in uniform. you know, chris, i respect you because you ve spent a lot of time throughout your career shining a light on the challenges that veterans face when they come home. i will do anything and everything that i possibly can to stop sending our men and women in uniform into harm s way, fighting in these wasteful koirnl productive wars. the notion deserves nothing but respect. nothing but respect. i m not disputing that. here s what i m asking you. even if let me finish. finish your point, please.
where i ve seen the cost of war firsthand. do you consider him a torturer and murderer? that s not what this is about. i don t defend or apologize or have anything to do with what he has done to his own people. but just on a factual basis, bashar al assad is a murderer and a torturer. do you not agree with that? i don t dispute that. don t dispute that. it took several questions to get to that. last night with cnn s chris cuomo, notice the different tone. he s a brutal dictator, just like saddam hussein, just like gadhafi in libya. i will never apologize to anyone for doing all that i can to prevent more of my brothers and sisters in uniform to being sent to harm s way to fight in these wasteful counterproductive regime change wars even if it means meeting with a brutal dictator. she flipped it. she flipped it and saying it s okay to meet with assad as long as you say he s a brutal dictator and a murderer. why did it take so long to get
heard her say this way before. so let s listen. he s a brutal dictator. just like saddam hussein. just like gadhafi in libya. the reason why i am so outspoken on this issue of ending these wasteful regime change wars is because i have seen first hand this high human cost of war. and the impact that it has on my fellow brothers and sisters in uniform. so does that answer the criticism? it doesn t. and it will not. the reality is she s from a strictly political standpoint made a very, very tough choice to talk primarily about foreign policy and make that her calling card. even knowing and as in political adviser would tell her, that is not what people vote for by and large. even at the height of the cold war, it wasn t the number one issue. it might be number one, might be number three. in the current environment, it s nowhere near the top of people s concerns. so she s got sort of a calling card that s very controversial. then she takes a controversial
position within a foreign policy. look, sub tantively, is she right? yeah. there s a conversation that needs to be had about what happens when you sort of say, let s get rid of gadhafi and then what comes after. there has to be a structured intelligent discussion. she may not be the best messenger for that because she sort sof staked her campaign on this position. and she s been so unwilling to criticize bashar al assad. i think she only said that there because chris pressed her. i don t know she would have voluntarily said that. no. she has. she s been given a thousand opportunities to say it and last night she finally broke, i suppose. joe, what did you hear? yeah, no. i agree. you know, she there are very few things in our presidential politics in the aftermath of trump of seem disqualifying. but i think it is this with tulsi gabbard. democrats are different than