expect the cia might play that type of role. how realistic is it there will be a real crack in gadhafi s inner circle? we ve seen moussa koussa bolt, defect to britain. how serious of a possibility is there there will be mass defections and he ll go down? remember that pressure i talked about, that noose is pretty tight. even though they had some advances militarily, that noose is getting tight. they re going to run out of money. there is loss of moussa koussa was close to the gadhafi regime. other folks are having thoughts and consideration of defection. we know that the gadhafi sons have reached out to talk to people about how they get out of this mess. all of that is good because that tension that, chaos, it builds. they re losing confidence in themselves to hold together as a government. and i will tell you, i think that i think in the days ahead, there are going to be
decided to drop financial sanctions against this man, and he is moussa koussa, and unfreezing his assets. i want to go to senior international correspondent nic robertson in tripoli. what are you leading about these developments of moussa koussa, the foreign minister? is this a carrot and stick situation? well, this is very much a carrot and stick, brooke. you have a situation where the first thing that the foreign minister said when moussa koussa showed up there is that the government would not give him amnesty, and a lot of people here said what xwovgovernment officials would want to turn themselves in and not get amnesty, because he has a lot of skeletons in the closet, and by unfreezing the assets it sends another message. if you are a senior official, and you are on an assets frozen list or wanted list of any kind, andb here we are talking about some of the gadhafi sons,
while i was with him from one of the gadhafi sons. he seemed very at ease with the situation, unfazed with what s going on, of what may be coming and had a pretty good analysis, he thought, of what was going to be coming. today he seemed still very confident. i talked to a young naval officer today who helped put the fire out at the port at that silt after the rockets landed, missiles landed, taking out the rocket launchers. he said, look, there has to be a cease-fire. we have to get into talks here at this time. but i m not seeing anyone standing up. and i don t think we will see anyone stand up here and say gadhafi has to go. why? because the regime won t tolerate it. they certainly won t tolerate it on camera. the sort of people we were able to meet a couple of weeks ago, get in touch with, who would tell us their true feelings, right now they re just too afraid while emotions are so high here, what they re really thinking. it s a clear understanding
i think we the try to keep it as much as we can. i think we can keep it for three, four days more, because gadhafi sons continue to claim the people of misrata are being held hostage by 40 to 50 armed fighters, and essentially it s a small group of al qaeda holding hostage the people of misrata. no, no, no, no, no. everyone i talked to in misrata says that s a lie? no, that s a lie. no al qaeda in libya, no al qaeda in misrata. it s a big lie. what do you want people to know? do you believe no, i don t believe him. we re all al qaeda? he s not believing it himself. he doesn t believe it himself? yeah. he knows it s a lie? that s right. what do you want the world to know what s happening right now
the other one is 12 years old. right now has the government retain the city? no, no, no, no. this is still under the misrata people, under the civilian people. how long do you think you can hold on to the city? i think we the try to keep it as much as we can. i think we can keep it for three, four days more, because gadhafi sons continue to claim the people of misrata are being held hostage by 40 to 50 armed fighters, and essentially it s a small group of al qaeda holding hostage the people of misrata. no, no, no, no, no. everyone i talked to in misrata says that s a lie? no, that s a lie. no al qaeda in libya, no al