overturned it would go badly for them with the rebels. so they re quite determined to fight. but i don t know, you know, just how tough the gadhafi army is. and whether they re a kind of keystone cop scenario. almost like the rebels are, you know, it s a possibility. i don t know. because the regime, fouad, continues to say, well, look, we haven t even we could crush these people if we wanted to, but we re only bombing to scare them. we re shooting over their heads, which obvious will in many videos does not seem to be the case. all arab armies, we just understand what they are. all the arab armies, their conduct and performance in wars outside are terrible. but every single army, when you look at the syrian army, like the libyan army, you can say it s terrible, sectarian, it can t stand up to israel. all this is true. but what s also true is that these are instruments of internal repression, and an army, however disorganized,
constant repeated shelling, firing, bombing, attacking of that town, and the military got closer and closer and got basically it tried to strangle the town and the people inside it, they to call them a rebel army is just not the case there. there may be rebels in the east, or a rebel army made up of defectors from the gadhafi army, but in this town, they are 99% civilians. there are a few soldiers who have defected, very, very few, and they brought with them some weaponry, but they are vastly outnumbered by the civilians in the town. this is a town that is under siege, being constantly attacked and there is a massacre going on there. the other lie that the regime has been telling, which you re reporting again highlights and points out is this claim by gadhafi and his son and the
now we re hearing reports that they re going house to house, looking for anybody who might be a male of a certain age who might have taken part in this. did they know what it will entail if gadhafi retook the town? reporter: oh, yes, they knew. because it has already happened before now. every time there was an attack, they kept on the army, the gadhafi army kept on making attacks farther into the town center. they would attack and attack, then withdraw. on one occasion we went to the hospital and saw the military vehicles going back in. they were going back in to pick up not only the dead soldiers, to kill the injured soldiers so they couldn t pass on any other information, but to do the clean up there and then. i went back several hours and the dozens of gadhafi soldiers had all disappeared. the injured soldier who had been
get defensive positions. strengthen your positions where you are rather than rush madly ahead, only to rush madly backwards. no, it s not. amazingly, after all of this, there doesn t seem to be any organization emerging from this anarchy, for lack of a better word. anderson? alex, zawiya has also fallen to gadhafi control. we see they re trying to clean up the evidence of what happened. but you were there and you saw what happened. you say it was a massacre, yes? reporter: i mean, it s absolutely shocking to think i was there four days ago, the international community had four days to try and help those people. ben wedeman is absolutely right, certainly in zawiya there was no coordinated army response from the rebels. the number of defections were in ones and twos, when i asked how many people defected yesterday,