talking. the secretary price understands in washington, sometimes they can t let a cry it is go. pleasure to see you. amen. charles: happy to see you. hanpy new year. happy new year. charles: the dow jones industrial average moved closer to 37,000. the nasdaq did the exact opposite. it got shellacked. gary kaltbaum is here with us. the value names on the dow shot higher. the high flying tech names, the gadget names got crushed. what s going on? the growth names have been in trouble for a while. the last couple days for lack of a better word, they ve been obliterated as interest rates have moved higher that is giving the impetus for the stuff, the things that are comatose like financials and energy, auto stocks. ford breaking out of multiyear highs. that is the place the be.