suspended, but the decision was ov overruled. joining me is the former assistant of the fbi and the president of the law enforcement legal defense fund. gabby and ken are here, as well. ron, i ll start with you. because it wasn t clear that peter strzok had to be fired, can you explain specifically why he was? was that the right move? well, the fbi uses what is akin to sentencing guidelines. all agents are on notice of what conduct or misconduct leads to a violation. they re aware of what the potential penalty range is for acts of misconduct. they will conduct what is akin to a presentencing report that you have in courtrooms, to say here is the agent s position. here was the alleged offense. here s the gravity of what the misconduct was. i think in this case, one of those factors, these are known
kasic if he decides to get into the 2020 race? look, kasic is a governor of a state, a very important state, he s done well, popular still in the state, despite what the president says. yeah, i mean i think i think in terms of kasic he ignores the stuff from trump and tweets. it s pa threatically childish. in terms of his plans i can see him mounting energy in that regard. in fact, kasic actually sent out a fund-raising e-mail citing that tweet last night. if you had any doubt that our message is working this should put that to rest no matter how inaccurate his statements are. now is our chance to build on that success. yeah. in this case he s not ignoring it, he s seizing on it. gabby, it would be very astounding to see a republican challenge this president in the primary. but possible. it would be. i think his name is certainly out there. jeff flake is another potential contender. i do think you re hearing from other republicans, marco rubio did an interview last week w
elections. what is the broader impact on the mueller investigation, and does he care? is he listening to this type of timeline or those polls? i say that bob mueller has thick windows, right? bob mueller is not deaf to what s going on in the american public and the american conversation. i think he has to hear and sense a sense of urgency. that is the bob mueller i actually know. there was always a sense of urgency with all our investigations, but he has to hear this. we re impatient. we live in a 24/7 news cycle. we all want to know. we all want to know right now. the results of everything. we want to know it immediately. i think that he s working with a sense of urgency. i think there is a lot that bob mueller has and knows that we don t. gabby, just very quickly, we ve seen the president intensify his ait cttacks again the special counsel, and this development gives him more ammunition. he s used the firing of peter strzok to excscalate the criticm
he embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars from paul manafort, and that it is really him who should be on trial here. and paul manafort was more removed from a lot of the financial crimes than the prosecution is making it out to be. we can expect that once we get going, kristen. it is not clear at this point what this issue is or when it ll be resolved. another mystery inside that courtroom. if you get more information, let us know. julia ainsley, fantastic reporting, as always. with us is joiyce vance, msnbc contributor. with me, gabby, a washington examiner writer, along with vogel. thank you for sticking around. do you read anything broader into the delay, or does this happen when you have a new day in court? this isn t something that just happens. there s been a lot of
did. not only has he run up additional millions of legal fees on top of the huge debt that prosecutors already demonstrated he had going into 2016, but having spent a couple days in the courtroom last week, i can tell you from my perspective looked like he was just getting crushed. wow. that is interesting. a lot of people wondering why he didn t just cooperate with prosecutors. great scoops, great conversation throughout the hour. ken, gabby, great to see you. thanks so much for being here. appreciate it. and now for today s big picture, it comes to us from west virginia, where the house of delegates took the extraordinary step of voting to impeach all four of the state supreme court justices for excessive use of state funds. justice catchum resigned last month, one spent $500,000 on her office including $20,000 on an oval rug. another justice spent more than $300,000 to renovate his office with an expensive couch and decorative floor inlay. the average income in west