The dni and the rest of the National Security establishment . A question a lot of people are asking this hour. Were going to take you through the much balihooed memo release, what it means for the russia investigation and discuss potential resignations or firings of senior d. O. J. Or fbi leadership. Lets get right to it with our experts. Jeremy bash, former Chief Of Staff at both the cia and pentagon. Now an msnbc National Security analyst. Matt miller, former chief spokesman for the Justice Department in the Obama Administration, now an msnbc justice and security analyst. Chuck rosenberg, a former u. S. Attorney who has worked on the staffs of both Robert Mueller and james comey at the fbi and is now an msnbc contributor. And with us onset, nbcs ken delanian and republican strategist Steve Schmidt. Jeremy bash, let me start with you on this idea that carter
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there is obviously a lot here, a lot of new material and a lot of stuff nobody else reported and i want to ask you about it. let me start with the reporting about the memo from steel the ar his fusion gps contract ended. it was produced in late november after the election in 2016 and it was based on a russian source suggesting that the kremlin had had a hand in casting the u.s. secretary of state for the trump administration. what else can you tell us about that reporting and it s credibility? well, you know, it s hard to evaluate. it s only based on one source. it s a shorter memo than most of the steele memos that created the dossier but one of the things, it mean, on its face it seems fantastic that something like this could be true and a foreign power would intervene with an elected president by then which trump was and shape
erovinkin was found dead in his car. no official cause of death has been cited by jane mayer continues, no evidence has emerged that oleg erovinkin was a source for christopher steele and mueller is believed to be investigating a different death that is possibly related to the dossier. a different death. jane mayer, you re making me crazy. joining us now is jane mayer from the new yorker magazine. jane, congratulations on this scoop. it is killing me. thank you so much. great to be with you. so i have a few different there is obviously a lot here, a lot of new material and a lot of stuff nobody else reported and i want to ask you about it. let me start with the reporting about the memo from steele after his fusion gps contract ended. it was produced in late november after the election in 2016 and it was based on a russian source suggesting that the kremlin had had a hand in casting the u.s. secretary of state for the trump administration. what else can you tell us about that repo
but i think that does get you back to this point that steve schmidt was raising which is it s not compelling in the real world. it s not factual and substantive in the real world. but that doesn t mean it won t achieve its purpose in the right wing conservative world. in donald trump s mind does this give him the political space to move on rod rosenstein, to move on the underlying investigation as he seems to want to do. all right. so let me give you another piece of this, ken dilanian. it also, the memo released today declassified by the president over the objections of the director of the fbi who had grave concerns, also alleges that information to the court did not reveal that the fusion gps generated dossier was financed by the dnc and the clinton campaign. now, the truth is that the original fusion gps contract was under big republican donor paul singer, and it was i think an intermediary, a conservative website, the free beacon. i understand christopher steele wasn t involved u
wing conservative world. in donald trump s mind does this give him the political space to move on rod rosenstein, to move on the underlying investigation as he seems to want to do. all right. so, let me give you another piece of this, ken dilanian. it also, the memo released today declassified by the president over the objections of the director of the fbi who had grave concerns, also alleges that information to the court did not reveal that the fusion gps generated dossier was financed by the dnc and the clinton campaign. now, the truth is that the original fusion gps contract was under big republican donor paul singer, and it was i think an intermediary, a conservative website, the free beacon. i understand christopher steele wasn t involved until the fusion gps contract had been taken over by the clinton campaign. even it would seem like their strongest point, they don t really stick to the facts. and there is a dispute about it because what democrats seem to be suggesting is th