serial killer. i mean anthony: apparently you can. [ laughter ] anthony: is seattle a teeming hive of serial killers? or am i just an idiot with a morbidly over-active imagination and an attraction to the dark, ugly side of life. meet retired homicide detective mike ciesynski who for over 12 years specialized in cold cases in the region. we meet at the shanghai room in greenwood where fred moody tends bar. the north star diner next door provides nourishment. crab, bacon and melted cheese is, when discussing dump sites and ligature marks, a must. anthony: why does it seem that there s a disproportionate number of serial killers in the seattle and washington state area? do you have a theory on that? mike: well, i don t think that most serial killers went shopping for areas where they lived, this is just where they ended up. when you re a detective for as long as i ve been a detective
can i smoke and tell you if the weed is good? and then all of a sudden he starts moving. raft: my business plan ended at get a license. to get a license it was to build a fence, put up some cameras and get out the way. and they ll come, give you a final inspection and now you are licensed to grow weed in the state of washington. anthony: how many people grow weed, do you think, in the seattle, washington state region? raft: there s a lot. joy: there s a lot. there s over 1100 producer processors in washington state and about 400 licensed retail stores. raft: weed is everybody smokes weed. joy: there s so many people of all different types that smoke weed. we did a store visit and we saw people come in and out. grandmas, moms, professionals. like, i m sure if that store took demographics of their clientele, they would have a spectrum of different type of people. anthony: people like to get high. what do they want these days? there s so many choices. joy: our biggest
screaming trees in the 90 s and continuing through numerous brilliant collaborations with artists like queens of the stone age, pj harvey, kurt cobain, unkle, mad season, the gutter twins, isobel campbell and massive attack. maybe you know him from such theme songs as this show. mark: wow. spicy. anthony: yeah, that s good. anthony: dinner with mark and touring guitarist jeff fielder at ocho in ballard, where they serve up generous drinks and tasty spanish-influenced tapas. anthony: you grew up two hours outside of seattle? mark: yeah, in eastern washington, which is like the countryside, ranching, farming community. anthony: you don t live here
anymore, you live in la now? mark: yeah. anthony: how long since you left? mark: it s been 20 years. anthony: oh wow. mark:but i come back here, you know, a couple times a year and play shows. i still have family in the city and i think of it as home still, you know, i always will. it s just uh, it s the home i don t live in anymore. would you put on that long white dress while i burn when there s no more tomorrows will you walk with me underground and forgive all my sadness and the sorrows ba dadada da badadadada
anthony: seattle has always been a place where you can go to reinvent yourself. it s a place that, on the surface, would seem to require commitment. famously gray, rainy, not particularly friendly and all the way up there, in the far corner of the country. a place you could get work in the aircraft industry, or make music or rather notoriously, become a serial killer. whether outfitting prospectors during the alaskan gold rush or looking for some kind of cred from the music scene, it s always boom or bust. now it s a new kind of boom. microsoft, google, twitter, expedia and amazon are the big dogs in town. a flood of them. tech industry workers, mostly