john: i should say he is here because he is one of contest winners in the classroom contest a contest where they were to talk about the unintended consequences to government programs. you won a free trip to new york and thousand bucks. okay. [ applause ] john: we was the first runner-up and winner is next to him, how old are you? 13 years old and you won $1500. do you have a question also. yes, i was wondering i know you talked about ethanol and electric cars, would you give more examples of fuel savers of environmentalists that are not environmentally friendly? biofuels, is one of them. it s not just corn ethanol the idea that grass or poplar trees or some other planted could be used to create large amounts of