Hi kathie. So nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. I enjoyed your book. Thank you. I would like to start this interview by talking a little bit about you. I also would like the audience to hear the story which honestly which really offended me. Which is in your introduction. You got a note from a professor claiming he would never be a political scientist. Can you say little bit about that . Speech i put that in the book because when i was in college i struggled with what i wanted to major in. I wanted about going into science, humanities or social science. And i finally decided on social science because i found those questions much more interesting comment engaging in urgent for me. My First Political science course we read all of the great political philosophers from plato on up. They were all asking the question, what is justice . What is Good Government . How can you organize a government and organize society to make life better for people. Particularly to make justice. So, i end