it s time to reform if not end the diversity visa program. i mean, i think it s roughly 5% of the 1 million visas that we issue. we would be best to apply our strategy to visa issuance rather than leave it up to chance and to lottery. brian: all right. since 2007. we have 20739 from iran. 70232 from sudan. 812 from syria. i m not saying they are not all great people. we need to know if they re coming here, who they are. they win the lottery and bring over relatives because that s the chain pry migration that we fear. from my experience i don t think shutting down the visa diversity program is necessarily going to be the path to better counter terrorism effectiveness. for three reasons. first of all, we do vetting pretty well. and we do it we apply it for the visas that are issued for the diversity program as well with database checks and personal interviews. and that s important. we also we take a hard look at all these people and