they had four family members on board, including two grandchildren traveling for holiday to singapore and now they re hearing with almost certainty that their relatives will not be coming home and that they will not see them again. it s interesting, though. while they are losing hope there is still some hope. the couple was telling me look there s still we believe that there s still a chance. there s a 5% chance that at least one of our family members might have survived. carol? where are the family members waiting? well carol, there s about 80 of the families here 80 of the passengers on board were fro surabaya itself this city of three million people in east java. the others from various parts of indonesia and outside indonesia so some of them have gone home. as i mentioned, the couple i just talked about, they re from about three hours outside of surabaya. they ve been here for the past three days hoping waiting and praying for good news. now they re at a nearby hotel,