well, trump contradicts his intel team again with just days till his second summit with kim jong-un. what should we expect the second time around? joining me is sumi terry, senior fellow an the center for strategic and international studies and former director for korean national security council and john macculloch lynn, nbc news global fairs analyst and former cia acting director. welcome to you all. we were talking about what we can expect. second meeting of these two men there. one-on-one together with the translators. do we have any idea what we can expect to happen there? i think there s going to be an interim deal actually because both president trump and kim jong-un wants a deal and president trump wants to walk away and say north korea is a success story. whether it s a good deal is another question. i think north korea is basically going to offer a freeze proposal where they are going to promise
they re buying time to make progress on their nuclear program. they may not need to have more nuclear tests. that s what the freeze proposal may mean. now they may be manufacturing nuclear device. bill: last point on this, if you believe they re nuclear by the end of 2018 that would be something else. who makes the next move in the game? i don t think we should let them get to that point and that prediction is based in part on what cia director mike pompeo has been saying they re within a handful of months of being a threat and we ve seen the future just the past week of the north korea capable of chemical weapons. north korea is telling the materials for weapons of mass destruction to syria now, chemical weapons, and they ll do the same with the nuclear
efforts in the region the chinese have been making these concerted efforts with the freeze for freeze proposal the chinese and russians have been advocating this idea that north korea would freeze its nuclear weapons development activities in return for the united states and south korea freezing their military exercise. we re seeing some of those pieces take place and from the chinese side there is an effort there to frame what s happening now as the beginning part of their process of the freeze for freeze. but right now, as we see this diplomatic opening, i think we re going to see a lot of different parties saying they re the catalyst for it and that s fine. the eyes are on the idea can we turn this into a process. i don t think the trump administration would ever want to admit the freeze for freeze. reporting in the new york times david sanger, terrific article about u.s. intelligence and north korean missile program over the last several decades and said they made two key
trade between the two countries was worth nearly $650 billion. it is clear that it s not just in china s economic interest, it s also in the region s interest that they do something to stop pyongyang. whether they act to do that is anyone s guest. chinese are floating a freeze proposal at the u.n., haley describing it as insulting. back to you if anything comes out from the white house in the next couple of hours. heather? with more on the president s response to north korea, let s bring in steven nelson, white house reporter for the washington examiner of the thank you for joining us. thanks for having me. a lot of breaking developments on this story. but let s begin with president trump and his series of tweets, he did talk about halting all trade with countries doing business with north korea. also faulting south korea for what he called talk of appeasement. is he moving in the right direction, taking the correct steps?
antimissile defense, either trying to hit guam or the u.s. nevertheless, six congressmen in china, korea, and japan over this week, and they are going to basically discuss this freeze proposal by russia and china that the u.s. would freeze military maneuvers on the peninsula in exchange, korea would freeze its missile and nuclear program. that s where, arthel, a lot of people say this would be a fool s errand because of course history tells us that north korea can t be trusted. back to you. live there in guam, william la jeunesse, thank you, william. eric: back here at home, some 40,000 demonstrators, see them, yesterday in boston flooding the streets of that city marching against the touted free speech rally that was held by conservative activists. coming up a congressman is here on the state of race relations in our country, the demonstrations we have been seeing and the tensions that continue.