in this case as much as a thousand. but is there any example that you know of in which frawj rent voting gnarly with illegal particularly with illegal immigrants turned an election result? in 2008 al franken, after six months of court battles, was declared the victor in the minnesota senate race by 314 votes. after he was seated, it was discovered there were 1200 felons who had illegally voted in that election. a survey was done by fox news in minneapolis going out ander interviewing a whole bunch of those people. 90% said they voted for franken. it turned out al franken was the 60th vote, paul, to pass obamacare. if al franken hadn t been seated, i think illegitimately we wouldn t have obamacare as we know it today. paul: okay, what about illegal immigrants? have they turned any election? you wrote a piece for us not too long ago with a fellow from the heritage foundation which