retain that at mar-a-lago. he continued to possess it despite efforts to recover and finally when the fbi came out there in june, he and his lawyer swore that there was no other information. he continued to actually have it, despite that sworn affidavit that is not only a violation of the espionage act, seven 93 e, but that is also potential obstruction provisions in terms of concealing that from the u.s. government. in my view, that is enough, that is sufficient to bring an indictment, it is certainly enough to get a conviction, whether not the government will take that is ultimately in his discretion. i think they can and should do so. randy moss, national security attorney, really appreciate your time tonight, thanks for joining me. anytime, alex. joining us now is luke, reporter for the new york times who has been covering the search at mar-a-lago. his new piece out tonight, the headline reads, inside the 20 month fight to get trump to return presidential material. luke, than
in the attached document must remain sealed to protect the safety and privacy of a significant number of civilian witnesses. the doj has a significant number of civilian witnesses, yes, that s witnesses plural who aided them in this criminal investigation. plus, they have 184 classified documents found before the august 8th search warrant at mar-a-lago. that search warrant by the way resulted in even more documents. and, the federal government believed evidence of obstruction would be found at trump s home too. and, and, and, there is so much to unpack here. let us turn now to bradley moss a national security attorney who has represented federal officials, members of the military, and defense contractors in security clearance proceedings. mr. moss, thanks for joining us tonight. absolutely. so, let s first talk about this line. it accompanied the redacted affidavit about a significant number of civilian witnesses.
violation of the espionage act, section seven 93 e, but that is also potential obstruction provisions in terms of concealing that from the u.s. government. in my view, that is enough, that is sufficient to bring an indictment, it is certainly enough to get a conviction, whether not the government will take that is ultimately in his discretion. i think they can and should do so. randy moss, national security attorney, really appreciate your time tonight, thanks for joining me. anytime, alex. joining us now is luke, reporter for the new york times who has been covering the search at mar-a-lago. his new piece out tonight, the headline reads, inside the 20 month fight to get trump to return presidential material. luke, thank you for making time be here. with me this evening after the deadline. the 20 month fright, you ve done all the service in putting it all together. i mean, we know that there are very searches and subpoenas surveillance tapes, but really when you look at it in the
this week, the committee interviewed former cabinet member, and trump national security adviser, robert o brien. according to the new york times, investigators asked robert o brien about discussions inside the cabinet, about whether to invoke the 25th amendment to remove mr. trump from office. the committee has already sat down with three other trump cabinet members, treasury secretary steve mnuchin, secretary of state mike pompeo, and commerce secretary, elaine chao. they have also reportedly sought information from trump s education secretary, betsy devos. just last week, the committee s chairman, benny thompson, told reporters that they have spoken to pretty much every senior person in the cabinet, and for the most part, they have all indicated their willingness to talk to the committee. in other words, we may soon learn a lot more about what trump s own cabinet was prepared to do to stop their own boss on january 6th. back with us again is luke broadwater, congressional reporter fo
a small group of fraudulent trump supporters have moved on to a new talking point, claiming that there is simply too many redactions in the affidavit, and that there is just no transparency. look at all that blacking. the third ranking republican in the house, elise stefanik, told fox news, quote, the american people deserve transparency, and not an outrageously heavily reacted affidavit to cover up for and politically protect joe biden and the fbi for this dangerous and on american overreach. who is to say that if we were to learn which was in those redactions that they would necessarily be good for donald trump? i mean, that is perhaps why the interaction from the overwhelming majority of republicans is simply been silence. as the new york times notes, even the most bombastic republicans, people like representative marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert, they were initially focused elsewhere in the hours after the affidavit was released. they weren t tweeting about things like bor