it s repeated daily, not to mention the near-daily full my nations of the former president. defendants promise to take action in the future cannot be dismissed given that a single source of information continues the propagate the lie that inspired the attack on a near daily basis. judge amy berman jackson. what pressure is bearing down on the justice department at this point with a very public admission of what trump wanted and saw january 6 and pence s role in it? the level of pressure that the justice department is facing is only going to grow with each passing day in part because of the new information that s getting uncovered and brought together by the select committee. one of the biggest pressure points doj is likely to face is going to vol the fraudulent electors.
related plot driving toward january 6th to also delay or decertify the results that showed that biden was the lawful winner. so he denies now being involved or aware of the electors plot, he admitted a lot but not that. that s something that boris epstein did admit to. show you both interviews here on the beat. alternate, fraudulent electors, when did you become aware of that plan? that s not part of my remit or on my radar. are you saying you never heard of that until it became public in the press or while you were in government? that s correct. my focus, ari, was simply on the green bay sweep plan. that was the focus. the other stuff, not on the radar. was it on the incumbent departing president s radar? that s a big question the committee notes in a letter that
of. you can say a lot of things that won t be criminal. but if you take the same words and you submit them, you might end up with fraud, depending on where they go. what does it tell you that the doj now, according to some people, quite late in the probe, are looking at those broader efforts and do you think there might have been a crime committed if people submitted fraudulent electors? well, i think if fraudulent electors were submitted, that very much looks like there could be criminal activity afoot, so i think that s clearly what the doj is after here. but i think why they have gotten to this point, i think is because of the pressure that they have received for not doing much of anything about this until now. most of the prosecutions have been of the protesters themselves, or these are individuals who for the most part have been charged with property crimes, breaking and entering into the capitol, vandalizing property. we haven t really gotten crimes that are equitable with the
have been banned from voting in a state, the submission, if fake part, that s what becomes illegal. that what boris epshteyn basically admitted to pursuing in an interview here on the beat. there s also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or would support in michigan? that s so funny. not fraudulent electors. it s alternate electors. because of the constitution laid out in the constitution. a quote, we fought to see the electors, the trump campaign asked us to do that. did you ever make calls like that regarding what you re calling these alternate electors? yes, where was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors. let s go to legal experts. i m joined by sdny civil prosecutor, maya wiley, and melissa murray. good to see both of you. professor murray, this is what law school textbooks are made