to know that there have apparently been grand jury subpoenas that have been issued, and the grand jury has been quietly doing its work, without us knowing anything about it. the washington post report actually reported for the past two months, there were former officials in donald trump s orbit who had been receiving grand jury subpoenas. and we knew nothing about those. so that s encouraging, because it tells us that not only has the d.o.j. been doing the work behind the scenes, with the grand jury, which is a criminal investigation, but it s been doing it without the kind of leaks we would expect to see. so we re being kept in the dark. but that doesn t mean that the department of justice is not doing its work. and of course, we know stephen miller was the point person for donald trump, on the fake electors. he was running around bragging about how they were going to send alternate electors. let s call them what they are, fraudulent electors. and that makes stephen miller one of th
circle and that is progress indeed. yeah, and stephen miller is in that ironer circle. he is a white house aide and the person i showed who was tilling people, again, admittedly tricky to filling out what fwooul was saying in public that was baseless. he said words that had no correspondence to reality. that was a thing that happened. i remember covering it. and then other aides saying words that did correspond to reality like they were going to try to row crout people to fraudulently say that the millions of votes in their state that went for biden would be nullified and replaced by fraudulent electors. if that s not massive voter fraud, i don t know what is. take a quicklien to stephen miller back in the day. tens of millions of ballots fashion wide no signature checks, no citizenship checks, in residency checks, no criminal record checks, not checking if you are alive or dead. are we a third world country?
you be open to doing that in the future election if donald trump were to run again? the constitution under the 12th amend in the electoral account lays out a process. the truth is it s never been laid out constitutionally. i m on record i believe for the vice president to have a significant role in the process, and others also believe there s a significant role to be played by the vice president when he opens and counts the electoral votes. okay. got your answer there. there s also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or would support, for example, in michigan? that s so funny. notelectors, ari. it s alternate electors. there s a process for ee lengths to be challenged. if those challenges are successful, you need an alternate slate of electors like
dustin stockton, during which epshteyn admitted he was part of an effort to prop up fraudulent trump electors in key states. there s also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or would support, for example in michigan? that s so funny. not fraudulent electors, ari, it s alternative electors. yes, i was part of the process to see that alternative electors would be successful. everything was done under the rules and under the leadership of rudy giuliani. joining me now, a democratic strategist and national director of the engagement campaign. susan del percio and david jolly.
attempts to seat republican elector college voters across seven states that president donald trump lost. two former trump white house insiders and one organizer for the january 6th rally appeared exclusively on last night s the beat with ari melber and laid out their plan to overturn election results in shocking detail. take a listen. the ellipse rally was supposed to be like the opening argument, if you will. they were supposed to present hard evidence. that was kind of the hook, and then inside the capitol when the split happened, the green bay sweep started and the objections started. there was supposed to be more evidence presented. that s what the green bay sweep was all about. all mike pence was supposed to do on capitol hill that day was send the results back to six battleground states for ten days peter and we ve spoken about the pence, there s also been reports about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or would support, for e